Fire Gregg Williams and Al Saunders

[chris36]

Hey, I agree with benching Brunnel at this point, but he rarely throws interceptions. The offensive line was awful. I am suprised he only threw one interception.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by JWsleep

Merge--exactly the same thread title. Don't know who went first. Everyone is making bad plays today, even here on the warpath!

Hahaha...the same guy posted both of them!

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by chris36

Hey, I agree with benching Brunnel at this point, but he rarely throws interceptions. The offensive line was awful. I am suprised he only threw one interception.

He rarely throws interceptions because he's always, always, throwing high percentage passes. The same mentallity can be attributed to Brunell being one of the least sacked QBs in the league. He dumps the ball off quick. Stats in this case mean nothing.

[Crat92]

Originally Posted by skins052bgr8

This has nothing to do with Gregg Williams or Al Saunders. It is the damn players, Gregg Williams did not bite on the pass to Stallworth, he didn't design a defense that allowed a freak ass fumble for another big score. Al Saunders does not throw the ball 3-7 yards 90% of the time, he did not throw the ball to Lito Sheppard for another score. Get off the coaches as the problem both proven coordinators.

Damn Straight!

[hooskins]

Chris, you are an r-tard. This thread should be in thread hell.

[#56fanatic]

I think our D has played better the last couple of games. Eagles are #1 in the NFL. we held them pretty good the whole game. two big plays on offense, one of which was a fluke and they have 3 points. the pick cost us a TD. I think our D is coming around. we held them under 100 yards rushing until right at the end of the game.

I am sick of watching this offense week in and week out. We need 9 yards and we throw a 3 yard dump off to the back. I am sick of watching hand offs to randel el, screens on 3rd and long. it is absolutely ridiculous to do the sorry shit we do week in and week out. the talent is on the field and the crap we call is mind boggling. Duckett comes in and runds 12 yards and 5 yards on two carries, and then he is back on the bench. I think he is what will give us the opportunity to run the ball down hill and win games. (if portis is out for a while)
bring on Campbell.

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Chris, you are an r-tard. This thread should be in thread hell.

Second that. You've got to be kidding right? Get real.

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by skins052bgr8

This has nothing to do with Gregg Williams or Al Saunders. It is the damn players, Gregg Williams did not bite on the pass to Stallworth, he didn't design a defense that allowed a freak ass fumble for another big score. Al Saunders does not throw the ball 3-7 yards 90% of the time, he did not throw the ball to Lito Sheppard for another score. Get off the coaches as the problem both proven coordinators.

In fairness, Brunell does check down more than necessary. But, many of the plays they ran today don't have downfield options. Like the swing pass to Betts which they ran against Dallas for a first down on the first drive last week and called several times today. There are no other receivers on that play that you can try get the ball to. Cooley is just setting a pick. Ditto the slant on 3rd and 10. Brunell can wait for the receiver to get further up the field, but as the Madden afficianados will understand, a slant has a definite window that is quickly closed by the safety.

If you know your quarterback has a propensity to look short, then call plays that don't have short options. They should have been protecting with seven and sending everyone else down the field. I believe they call it a 989. If no one is open downfield, Fauria or Sellars or Betts can then let their man go and try to bail Brunell out. This is called flair control. It gives the play options and it's simple. Saunders' style seems to put all the money on one number. He seems to think that he can guess which skill player is going to make the BIG PLAY on THIS PLAY. Impossible.

In addition, the runs they call are so scatter-shot and un-related that they add up to nothing. Last year when we got 80 yards rushing in a half, the other team was in trouble because it meant they were being worn down and the cumulative affect was devestating. Today we had around 80 yards in the first half, but it didn't matter because a) it led to no TDs and b)the style of the runs are not demoralizing. When you run the same basic play over and over again and still get first downs, the other team starts to quit. Saunders won't do that.

[chris36]

Hey, the Redskins defense played horrible. Greg Williams is directly responsible for that. Joe Gibbs has give him free rain, with personnel and the play book. The players that he brought have not done a whole lot. Carlos Rogers was his choice. He has even managed to make Taylor look bad. As far as Saunders goes, I think it is personnel. The combination of the OL play bad, combined with a medicore quarterback.

[CPDAMAN]

I dont think I could endorse firing either one, but Chris36 has a point.

[Citizens for 81]

Firing Gregg Williams is insane.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by chris36

He has even managed to make Taylor look bad.

Williams didn't make Taylor bite on a double-move or grab a facemask.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by chris36

As far as Saunders goes, I think it is personnel. The combination of the OL play bad, combined with a medicore quarterback.

So why did you start a thread calling for Saunders' firing?

[RedskinRat]

Williams' D was great last season. It should have been at the very least good this season, so what's changed?

LB coach. Ryan Clark gone.

I don't see how firing Williams would help. Maybe the LB coach and figuring out how to use AA (as we are stuck with him) and making the CB's play a little closer to the man. Seeing Rogers giving his WR a ten yard cushion on a short yardage down makes me want to :vomit:

That HAS to be a coaching decision, not #22's.

Keep it up Chris36, you're proving yourself with every post.

[Twilbert07]

Originally Posted by chris36

Hey, I agree with benching Brunnel at this point, but he rarely throws interceptions. The offensive line was awful. I am suprised he only threw one interception.

And Brunell rarely does anything to win a game. He led us to 3 points and gave the Eagles 7. The defense played poorly, but when we were behind, there was no way Brunell was going to get us back into the game. Alas, all he did was seal the deal with his TD pass to the wrong team.