Gibbs looks angry during press conference

[Master4Caster]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I said it in another thread, I think he was calling out Saunders and GW a bit today. Anyone else get that feeling?

Yup! I heard it that way, too. He was calling out the coaches. I think he was challenging Saunders more. I mean, come on; 20 rushing attempts (5 by the QB) in a close game. That's not running the ball. You don't control the game clock when your pass:run ratio is 34:20.

Could say the same about the defense, but stopping the run is not a new issue. Letting a team you could/should have beat run for 181 yards and control the clock for 36 minutes is "not the principles we abide by."

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

I'm talking about the inconsistent running game and playcalling. It's almost as if they're just drawing plays out of a hat. I think we should've kept with Joe Gibbs offense from a year ago and just added the receivers.

Wasn't it Joe Gibbs who wanted Al Saunders in here? Plays often look like they've been "drawn out of a hat" when the players who run them don't execute.

[budw38]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

It is funny how some of you guys can't get passed this thing with Joe Gibbs and Mark Brunell, but you can completely ignore the fact that the real reasons why we're losing games are the defense and the inconsistent playcalling from Al Saunders. I'll admit, I was very excited to see Al Saunders coming here, but this team wins with Joe Gibbs football, and they're not playing Joe Gibbs football.

A side note...I think Jason Campbell played more than well enough to have won us a ball game,but he has completely NO HELP from anybody else with the exception of Loyd, ARE, and Cooley.

We are losing games because of the guys that GIBBS wanted . Gibbs brought these players in here , and he brought in Saunders . Gibbs is they guy willing to trade draft picks like they are worthless . And he keeps talking about character ,, Moss and Taylor have committed about a dozen personal fouls this year . If character is so important , why do we keep going the the " U " for talent ? Moss , ya he is really tough sitting out again , he could have run some plays to help JC . JC looked good , now we need some help on the OL , DL , LB and DB's .

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

A side note...I think Jason Campbell played more than well enough to have won us a ball game,but he has completely NO HELP from anybody else with the exception of Loyd, ARE, and Cooley.

Randle El had one catch for 14 yards. He started today right? Was he #2 or #3 behind Thrash and Lloyd?

Maybe it was inexperience at QB combined with a good pass defense? At what point do we start raising some eyebrows at Randle El's production as a wideout?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Master4Caster

Yup! I heard it that way, too. He was calling out the coaches. I think he was challenging Saunders more. I mean, come on; 20 rushing attempts (5 by the QB) in a close game. That's not running the ball. You don't control the game clock when your pass:run ratio is 34:20.

Could say the same about the defense, but stopping the run is not a new issue. Letting a team you could/should have beat run for 181 yards and control the clock for 36 minutes is "not the principles we abide by."

Why is he calling out Sanders? We got behind and a lot of the throws came on the last drive. Plus we couldn't run the ball. If Gibbs has a problem with the play calling then he should take it over himself. Yes he was mad and it's about time. He should be mad getting becasue there is no way TB should run the ball for almost 200 yards. But the main problem is we just don't have the horses and throwing away the picks has really hurt the depth. So Gibbs has no one to blame but himself.

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Randle El had one catch for 14 yards. He started today right? Was he #2 or #3 behind Thrash and Lloyd?

Maybe it was inexperience at QB combined with a good pass defense? At what point do we start raising some eyebrows at Randle El's production as a wideout?

He's never going to catch 80 balls. What they need from him is to do his punt return thing and then provide one or two explosive plays on offense per game. Those may be runs, passes, or catches. I don't see him ever breaking out for 10 catches and 200 yards in a game. If he were capable of that, he would have done it in Pittsburgh. The Steelers are not a club that allows any talent to go to waste. If he had potential as a great WR, Cowher would have dragged it out of him. Instead he ended up in the role that he did which will end up being the same role he plays for us. That's why Lloyd was also signed. He is the more traditional WR compliment to Moss.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

He's never going to catch 80 balls. What they need from him is to do his punt return thing and then provide one or two explosive plays on offense per game. Those may be runs, passes, or catches. I don't see him ever breaking out for 10 catches and 200 yards in a game. If he were capable of that, he would have done it in Pittsburgh. The Steelers are not a club that allows any talent to go to waste. If he had potential as a great WR, Cowher would have dragged it out of him. Instead he ended up in the role that he did which will end up being the same role he plays for us. That's why Lloyd was also signed. He is the more traditional WR compliment to Moss.

If that is the case then he is being paid too much for what he is doing. That money he is making sure could be spent elsewhere.

[Beemnseven]

I guess I'm the only one who didn't see a whole lot of anger with Gibbs.

[SmootSmack]

They tried some trickery with Cooley throwing to El. I prefer it when it's the other way around.

[Pocket$ $traight]

He should be angry. We went from contender last year to arguably worst team in the league under his watch.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Randle El had one catch for 14 yards. He started today right? Was he #2 or #3 behind Thrash and Lloyd?

Maybe it was inexperience at QB combined with a good pass defense? At what point do we start raising some eyebrows at Randle El's production as a wideout?

Look at his career stats. What did you expect from the guy, a 1000 yard season?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Randle El had one catch for 14 yards. He started today right? Was he #2 or #3 behind Thrash and Lloyd?

Maybe it was inexperience at QB combined with a good pass defense? At what point do we start raising some eyebrows at Randle El's production as a wideout?

I was doing that last week.

I like Randle El, I wanted Randle El, thought he'd look good in Burgundy, and I still do. Just understand that as a wide receiver, there's nothing special about him. What's special about him is that he CAN hold his own at WR, while doing so much more for this team.

[EternalEnigma21]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

I guess I'm the only one who didn't see a whole lot of anger with Gibbs.

I sensed it. I think Williams may be really close to the Hot Seat....


I wonder if the D keeps playing like it is where Williams will end up. I also wonder if Williams isn't pissed because of Saunders coming in and challenging him to be the predecessor here, because it looks like our D is CONSTANTLY out of position. You couldn't do that shit on purpose.

You guys still want him to be our next Head Coach?

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by canthetuna

I sensed it. I think Williams may be really close to the Hot Seat....


I wonder if the D keeps playing like it is where Williams will end up. I also wonder if Williams isn't pissed because of Saunders coming in and challenging him to be the predecessor here, because it looks like our D is CONSTANTLY out of position. You couldn't do that shit on purpose.

You guys still want him to be our next Head Coach?

I bet Williams would love to leave this situation. We are a joke.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

I bet Williams would love to leave this situation. We are a joke.

don't forget that he's part of the punchline too