Clinton Portis over Ladell Betts is a no brainer

[djnemo65]

I'm just glad that Portis over Betts isn't a choice that we are required to make.

[CanadianSkin]

Who cares about the fumble or anything else. I do not think there is a discussion at all when it comes to who our back is. Portis has shown (He does hold our team record for yards) that he can be a back in any system. He was injured this year and will come back next year healthy as ever. I am okay with Betts as a back up, but in no way shape or form would I ever consider getting rid of Portis for Betts. Portis is 25 and just getting into his prime. Betts is 27 and a career back up. Anyone who thinks we should get rid of Portis and rely soley on Betts is just crazy. They probably also think Brunell should be our starter again next year as well.

I am saying all this after Betts hass had 4-5 good games, but have felt this way since he has been on our team. I love what Clinton brings to this team in terms of leadership, heart, work ethic and skill. Portis is the man, and Betts is here to give him a break from time to time. End of discussion.

[dgack]

And before you accuse me of not addressing your comparisons of Ladell to Clinton, all you've shown me is that Clinton is particularly good at not fumbling, not that Ladell is horrible. Read the other thread where I posted a long ass list of other pretty good NFL RB's who have coughed up the ball as much or more than Betts this season on similar amounts of carries.

You need to actually look at average carry/fumble numbers for the NFL if you think 2 fumbles lost is some amazingly bad stat line for a guy in the 230 carry tier.

[dgack]

Oh wait, never mind, I just saw your alias and realized I must have offended you because I didn't praise Sean Taylor enough. My bad. He had another outstanding game in what was clearly a Pro Bowl season (damn conspiracy) and it was all Ladell's fault.

Forget I said anything, how could I have known to whom I was speaking???

[SkinEmAll]

yeah It appears that way, I mean cmon wheres all the 'Marry' Christmas spirit?

[jdlea]

Posted the wrong stat here. He does have 5. Announcers during the game it was his sixth...strange.

[DiehardSkin88]

yea... Redskin, you don't know what you're talking about. If you ask me, that was one hell of a strip by chavous, not betts making a dumb play. I do agree that if he held onto the ball we probably would have won the game. But, without betts having the performance he had, the score would have been what? 17 to 31? Come on, he was not the direct cause for losing the game. Don't come up in here saying how betts sucks just because your ass is pissed of we lost the game...

[Redskin]

Originally Posted by DiehardSkin88

yea... Redskin, you don't know what you're talking about. If you ask me, that was one hell of a strip by chavous, not betts making a dumb play. I do agree that if he held onto the ball we probably would have won the game. But, without betts having the performance he had, the score would have been what? 17 to 31? Come on, he was not the direct cause for losing the game. Don't come up in here saying how betts sucks just because your ass is pissed of we lost the game...

Errm can I get a fuck you? Read around before you post against me. K Thx. I have stated that the defense on the whole is the reason we lost but if i had to pick one play that cost us the game it was Betts Fumble, I dont know how you can argue that. Blaming the defense is almost like blaming the offense for not scoring enough points, they had oppertunities. A single play can change the game or end the game and that play was Betts' fumble, whether you like it or not if he holds onto that ball we win.

[Eight in the Box]

On the bright side, the offense as a whole played well and we will receiving the 7th pick in the April Draft at worst. Start scouting them CBs... Merry Christmas!

[Eight in the Box]

P.S. I know that my signature sucks..

[SKINSnCANES]

Originally Posted by Eight in the Box

P.S. I know that my signature sucks..

My signature also doesnt really seem to fit anymore... I dont have the heart to change it though.

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by Eight in the Box

On the bright side, the offense as a whole played well and we will receiving the 7th pick in the April Draft at worst. Start scouting them CBs... Merry Christmas!

if we go after nate clements in free agency then we should go after a d-lineman with our first pick


**preferably a pass rushing d-lineman as appossed to a run stopping d-lineman.

[Eight in the Box]

I like the idea of moving Springs to FS with Taylor moving to SS (where he belongs), rotating in Vincent (if he is still around) and Prioleau at safety, while sarting Clements (if we get him) and Carlos on the outsides with Wright at the nickel. Springs would also be able to help at corner and Prioleau and Vincent can play a little corner as well in dime of quarter packages. Bye AA...

[SkinEmAll]

Our non existant defense gave up OVER 500 yds! Betts got mugged, he didnt LOSE the game. It was a great play by the defender. Fumble or no fumble it should not have come down to that play anyway. If Im not mistaken, thats the most yds our defense has given up since GW has been here and probaly for many yrs prior. Betts is a great, starting caliber RB. But his place here is at #2. It will be awesome to see CP run behind our line as they are obviously gelling as a unit and with the blocking schemes. We now have 2 RBs opponents have to respect and will give us even more threats next yr. Bottom line is our D once again did nothing to help us win. Yeah a Defensive stop in OT is nice, but when we score 31 pts, should we really be in OT?

[dgack]

Originally Posted by SkinEmAll

Yeah a Defensive stop in OT is nice, but when we score 31 pts, should we really be in OT?

Careful, you shouldn't "come in here throwing a couple of ill researched stats around" and "malign the D" like that. Someone's liable to talk facts with you and inform you of the error of your ways.