Redskins-Giants Postgame Thoughts

[ncskinsfanec]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

The defense? I hate to be the negative one, but I have little faith in Gregg Williams to turn things around at this point.

Jason sorta had his coming out party tonight. All for naught.

When we're hopefully making a playoff run next season (assuming the defense is turned around) Campbell's coming out party will definitely not be for naught! I'm glad this season is over (nightmare is over) and I look forward to things picking up from where we left off last season. There where a lot of negatives this season, but there were also some poignant positives as well!

[steveo395]

Originally Posted by ncskinsfanec

Valiant comeback attempt for a team just playing for pride. Defense just let us down again. If the defense can improve to mere average, and the offense continues at the pace it has been playing recently, next season could be special! Let's hope!

We were saying the exact opposite of that at the end of 2004.

[12thMan]

Guys, Nate Clements isn't going to solve our problems. Tiki Barber ran for a franchise record tonight. Nate isn't going to shore up our defense that much! He 'aint that much of a bad ass.

Gregg Williams needs to look at his game planning in my opinion. They ran probably north of 50% of their running plays to one side, and we didn't make any adjustments.

[dall-assblows]

we need a fat ass run stopping D end

[cpayne5]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Guys, Nate Clements isn't going to solve our problems. Tiki Barber ran for a franchise record tonight. Nate isn't going to shore up our defense that much! He 'aint that much of a bad ass.

No, but with another CB not named Kenny Wright or "Odie" Jimoh, you have the confidence to put them on an island more frequently while stacking the line (especially when playing a QB like Eli).

[ncskinsfanec]

Originally Posted by steveo395

We were saying the exact opposite of that at the end of 2004.

Yeah, isn't it something. The defense was playing great that year and the offense sucked. Hopefully that's good news in that it won't take long to get that defense turned around. I think Williams will have a lot to prove next season, I think that big contract extension maybe went to his head.

[NYCSkin]

Originally Posted by mooby

There, fixed #1 for ya.

And I solidly agree on #4. That was disgusting and classless.

As for my thoughts, well i don't have much. The defense blows unlike anything i have ever seen. They blow epic proportions. If Gregg Williams doesn't learn something from this, then maybe it's time to find someone else to fix the defense.

Also, I really, really, cannot emphasize this enough, do not want to see us go out in free agency and spend spend spend and fail to produce results. I am sick and tired of us being the laughingstock of the NFL during the spring. Gibbs needs to start building through the draft. That also cannot be emphasized enough. We're not playing to win a Superbowl now, we're back to square 1, and it's time to start rebuilding.

One more thing, I like Ladell Betts and all, but he needs to learn how to hang onto the ball. I'm gonna be glad to see Portis back there next year.

But how are we supposed to build through the draft with only one pick in the first three rounds? I agree with you--but this team's player personnel philosophy obviously does not value the draft. They prefer the FA approach--and I expect them to fire up Redskin One the first day of free agency...

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

I've constantly defended MLB Marshall, but I've defected to the anti-Marshall camp and think we need some new blood while retaining Marshall as an OLB or backup MLB.

MLB Patrick Willis anyone? He's projected as a late first rounder and is versatile and is a vocal leader (something we need on D). I'd love to trade down to nab Willis and pick up a 2nd rounder to get a Dlineman or DB.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by ncskinsfanec

Yeah, isn't it something. The defense was playing great that year and the offense sucked. Hopefully that's good news in that it won't take long to get that defense turned around. I think Williams will have a lot to prove next season, I think that big contract extension maybe went to his head.

ya think? or how about that million dollar bonus he gets if hes not named the head coach if gibbs retires?

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by cpayne5

No, but with another CB not named Kenny Wright or "Odie" Jimoh, you have the confidence to put them on an island more frequently while stacking the line (especially when playing a QB like Eli).

This is true, but herein is my biggest gripe with Williams' scheme. It seems as though too much depends on one or two guys. It seems like other defenses compensate well when one or two starters go down for the year. It's not a dramatic drop off. The Giants have been nicked up all season long. Even the Cowboys lost Greg Ellis, one of their top guys, and they survived. Same with the Eagles.

I'm telling you, I just don't buy if he had a shut down corner or a stud this or that, everything changes. We'll have to wait and see.

[dall-assblows]

cut holdman
move marshall to weak side
move rocky to strong side
get lance briggs and put him at MLB

[mooby]

Yeah i'm done defending Marshall this year too. He played good last year but this year has played pretty poorly. I would like to see move to backup outside linebacker though, he is definitely better than Holdman on the outside and would be a good backup.

[Gmanc711]

Postgame Thoughts?

I THINK Betts needs to stop fumbling before he does it in a big game.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

Postgame Thoughts?

I THINK Betts needs to stop fumbling before he does it in a big game.

I hope all the Official Warpath Betts Fan Club took note tonight.

We need both guys.

[dall-assblows]

when ever betts gets hit i hold my breath.