I like Ginn!

FRPLG · 02-20-2007, 11:21 PM

I know, right? That'd solve some issues.

AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace · 02-20-2007, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinEmAll

I have a idea, why dont they just convert Carlos Rogers into a shutdown corner?

while we're at it...lets turn Archuletta into a smart safety who can read the pass

djnemo65 · 02-21-2007, 12:09 AM

Just what we need, another small shifty wide receiver who can return punts.

offiss · 02-21-2007, 05:29 AM

Playing CB is all about being an athlete, and this kid is an athlete, anyone can operate with the usual standard picks, but the great ones can see potential in players to play a different position, that is what seperates the great GM from the run of the mill cookie cutter GM. If we had a great GM AA wouldn't be here, Carter wouldn't be here, Lloyd wouldn't be here.

I guess we can continue down the same path, continue to sign and draft players for need, only to find out a year later we actually need a player with skill to fill a need. I guess I was really way out of line to expect our draft experts who brought these players in to begin with to actually be able to evaluate college talent, thier still trying to figure out how to evaluate established NFL talent.

AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace · 02-21-2007, 06:22 AM

I don't think the idea of trying to find hidden talent is a bad idea, I just think in this case its not the wisest option. I'm not sure I would want to take a guy so high in the first round just to move him to a completely different position on the opposite side of the ball. Plus, we have 0 need for wide receivers right now and 0 need for kick returners. This just seems more like something you do with low round projects. As far as drafting for need, we don't have a choice. We're VERY thin at certain positions, and I've never like drafting merely the best player available anyway...who wants a team completely full of QB's and WR's. Some consideration for need has to go into the process.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 02-21-2007, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Personally I'm starting to like Jamaal Anderson. First of all Anderson is young at 21 years old. He played against elite competition in the SEC (13.5 sacks), hes athletic (played WR in high school), and hes very raw coming out of college (a la Sean Taylor). This is your defensive game changer. Plus he'll be available when we pick.

1. Oak - JaMarcus Russell
2. Det - Joe Thomas
3. Cle - Brady Quinn
4. TB - C. Johnson
5. Ari - Levi Jones

i think you mean levi beown and why would we draft ted ginn that would be insanely stupid and by the time we pick at least one of the three top lineman will be available if not all three

Beemnseven · 02-21-2007, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace

I don't think the idea of trying to find hidden talent is a bad idea, I just think in this case its not the wisest option. I'm not sure I would want to take a guy so high in the first round just to move him to a completely different position on the opposite side of the ball. Plus, we have 0 need for wide receivers right now and 0 need for kick returners. This just seems more like something you do with low round projects. As far as drafting for need, we don't have a choice. We're VERY thin at certain positions, and I've never like drafting merely the best player available anyway...who wants a team completely full of QB's and WR's. Some consideration for need has to go into the process.

Exactly. The Lions went with the philosophy of drafting the best player available for about three years in a row -- when they thought they were all wideouts.

dmek25 · 02-21-2007, 07:03 AM

hey earthquake, does the name mean anything?

Beemnseven · 02-21-2007, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by offiss

Playing CB is all about being an athlete, and this kid is an athlete, anyone can operate with the usual standard picks, but the great ones can see potential in players to play a different position, that is what seperates the great GM from the run of the mill cookie cutter GM. If we had a great GM AA wouldn't be here, Carter wouldn't be here, Lloyd wouldn't be here.

I guess we can continue down the same path, continue to sign and draft players for need, only to find out a year later we actually need a player with skill to fill a need. I guess I was really way out of line to expect our draft experts who brought these players in to begin with to actually be able to evaluate college talent, thier still trying to figure out how to evaluate established NFL talent.

offiss, why don't we keep it simple for our boys in the front office? It's quite enough for them to see the pros and cons in players for what they are. I really wouldn't want them to 'overthink' things.

Besides, when your defense needs an overhaul, you start up front -- our defensive line has been neglected in the draft for years. All the phenoms and athletes at corner won't matter when running backs gash through the line and quarterbacks can wait and wait and wait for an open receiver.

Hog1 · 02-21-2007, 07:53 AM

NO MORE FIRST ROUND PROJECTS! PROJECTS ARE FOR 6TH, 7TH, or Canadian league

724Skinsfan · 02-21-2007, 08:00 AM

The only point that I can agree on is the idea of getting the best raw athlete but only at a position of clear need. We absolutely need help at D-line if only for the reason of age. As has been said many times before Wynn, Daniels, Griffin and even Joe Salavea (apostrophe in there somewhere) are not getting any younger. The draft should focus on the best guy (athlete) available for the defensive line. I don't care if it's Tackle or End, we're going to need both in the next year or two.

Also, we do in fact need help at CB but the Redskins philosophy is "Win Now". You have a better shot at drafting a starter at D-line than you do at CB. The CB (if we actually get one) should be addressed through FA.

Detroit's problem isn't simply the fact that they only drafted the best player available the last three year's. I think Jeff Garcia and Joey Harrington proved that. That organization is simply poorly run and breeds an air of finger-pointing and complacency.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 02-21-2007, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

hey earthquake, does the name mean anything?

yeah that was my nickname in high school so i just use it all the time and the 26 is for clinton portis and the 89 is for santana moss

And once again drafting ted ginn would be STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! for obvious reasons

gabe1984 · 02-21-2007, 08:40 AM

I'm sorry, I just don't see any evidence that points to Ginn being a shutdown corner. You say he's a great athelete, but I don't see how that proves he can be a shutdown corner.

dmek25 · 02-21-2007, 08:41 AM

are you a big guy? i remember the pro wrestler with that name

bigant · 02-21-2007, 09:01 AM

we do not need another offense player. we have very good receiving core,and i do think that ginn is a game changer ,however we need to work on the defensive side of the ball,either at LB,DL or CB.....

02-20-2007, 11:21 PM	#16
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: I like Ginn! I know, right? That'd solve some issues.

02-21-2007, 12:09 AM	#18
djnemo65 Playmaker Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,836	Re: I like Ginn! Just what we need, another small shifty wide receiver who can return punts.

02-21-2007, 05:29 AM	#19
offiss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: sparta, new jersey [ northern jersey ] Age: 61 Posts: 3,097	Re: I like Ginn! Playing CB is all about being an athlete, and this kid is an athlete, anyone can operate with the usual standard picks, but the great ones can see potential in players to play a different position, that is what seperates the great GM from the run of the mill cookie cutter GM. If we had a great GM AA wouldn't be here, Carter wouldn't be here, Lloyd wouldn't be here. I guess we can continue down the same path, continue to sign and draft players for need, only to find out a year later we actually need a player with skill to fill a need. I guess I was really way out of line to expect our draft experts who brought these players in to begin with to actually be able to evaluate college talent, thier still trying to figure out how to evaluate established NFL talent.

02-21-2007, 06:22 AM	#20
AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace Impact Rookie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Fayetteville, NC Age: 40 Posts: 896	Re: I like Ginn! I don't think the idea of trying to find hidden talent is a bad idea, I just think in this case its not the wisest option. I'm not sure I would want to take a guy so high in the first round just to move him to a completely different position on the opposite side of the ball. Plus, we have 0 need for wide receivers right now and 0 need for kick returners. This just seems more like something you do with low round projects. As far as drafting for need, we don't have a choice. We're VERY thin at certain positions, and I've never like drafting merely the best player available anyway...who wants a team completely full of QB's and WR's. Some consideration for need has to go into the process.

02-21-2007, 07:03 AM	#23
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: I like Ginn! hey earthquake, does the name mean anything? __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

02-21-2007, 07:53 AM	#25
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: I like Ginn! NO MORE FIRST ROUND PROJECTS! PROJECTS ARE FOR 6TH, 7TH, or Canadian league __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

02-21-2007, 08:00 AM	#26
724Skinsfan Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Roanoke, VA Posts: 3,508	Re: I like Ginn! The only point that I can agree on is the idea of getting the best raw athlete but only at a position of clear need. We absolutely need help at D-line if only for the reason of age. As has been said many times before Wynn, Daniels, Griffin and even Joe Salavea (apostrophe in there somewhere) are not getting any younger. The draft should focus on the best guy (athlete) available for the defensive line. I don't care if it's Tackle or End, we're going to need both in the next year or two. Also, we do in fact need help at CB but the Redskins philosophy is "Win Now". You have a better shot at drafting a starter at D-line than you do at CB. The CB (if we actually get one) should be addressed through FA. Detroit's problem isn't simply the fact that they only drafted the best player available the last three year's. I think Jeff Garcia and Joey Harrington proved that. That organization is simply poorly run and breeds an air of finger-pointing and complacency. __________________ "I hope I'm getting better. I hope you haven't seen my best." - Jim Zorn

02-21-2007, 08:40 AM	#28
gabe1984 Special Teams Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 372	Re: I like Ginn! I'm sorry, I just don't see any evidence that points to Ginn being a shutdown corner. You say he's a great athelete, but I don't see how that proves he can be a shutdown corner. __________________ In the Land of the Blind the man with one eye is king, but today in the Land of the Skunks, THE MAN WITH HALF A NOSE IS KING!!!!!

02-21-2007, 08:41 AM	#29
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: I like Ginn! are you a big guy? i remember the pro wrestler with that name __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

02-21-2007, 09:01 AM	#30
bigant Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: garfield new jersey Posts: 158	Re: I like Ginn! we do not need another offense player. we have very good receiving core,and i do think that ginn is a game changer ,however we need to work on the defensive side of the ball,either at LB,DL or CB.....

I like Ginn!

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