Darrell Russell

Riggo44 · 07-14-2004, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Russell showed signs? When? He was barely on the field, LOL

To me it seems this guy just isn't hungry anymore. The fact that Gruden gave up on him this early really says a lot.

No Doubt!!! Put a fork in him. Russell is done!!

hurrykaine · 07-14-2004, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by SKINSnCANES

why not, what do we have to lose at the 2nd DT spot. I think Russel showed some signs of being good again next year. He did do well before he started getting caught with drugs didnt he? THen he was suspended and got out of football shape. At this point though they are plenty of players out there that havent been suspended that deserve more of a shot at a starting job

He's not a "Gibbs-type guy" - he won't use common sense and he will embarass us off-field. No way we should take him, even if he has any upside at all.

BossHog · 07-14-2004, 01:47 PM

Maybe Russell feels that he doesn't have to prove himself till the season starts. He was a monster DL before his off field problems caught up with him. It's not the same situation as Darryl Gardener as he had off the field, bad locker room presence, and a bad back. Russell doens't have his own regimen. And it seems that no team so far is willing to wait for him to get into shape.

That Guy · 07-14-2004, 04:40 PM

i thought it was stupid when we picked him up... then he was late for everything and out of shape... i can't even believe another team would bother. Now i'm pretty sure his career is over... hope he didnt waste all that cash on pills and such

, he's gonna need it.

skinsfanthru&thru · 07-14-2004, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

i thought it was stupid when we picked him up... then he was late for everything and out of shape... i can't even believe another team would bother. Now i'm pretty sure his career is over... hope he didnt waste all that cash on pills and such

, he's gonna need it.

other teams will bother because its hard to find someone with his talent at defensive tackle. if this guy had 3/4 of the drive most players have and a clear head, then he'd be a pro-bowler every year.

SmootSmack · 07-15-2004, 03:07 PM

I'm thinking there won't be any rush to get this guy

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1840351

Redskins_P · 07-15-2004, 03:58 PM

The guy is a freaking crack head. Plain and simple.

EEich · 07-15-2004, 09:42 PM

Chris Mortensen reported that he was let go for violating the terms of the substance abuse policy. He tested positive for alcohol, and that's a no-no for someone who had a previous drug suspension.

sportscurmudgeon · 07-15-2004, 11:00 PM

I believe that this is the seventh or eighth time that he has run afoul of the substance abuse guidelines meaning that he would be given an indefinite suspension even if he were on a team's roster.

The Redskins need this guy like a moose needs a hat rack.

SKINSnCANES · 07-16-2004, 02:45 AM

MTK · 07-16-2004, 09:59 AM

bye-bye to D Russ

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July 15, 2004 4:06 PM ET
Russell could face another suspension

The News

Free agent Darrell Russell may be facing another suspension for violating the terms of his substance abuse recovery program. According to an ESPN.com report, Russell tested positive for alcohol use five weeks ago, which led the Buccaneers to release him on Tuesday. If the reports are accurate, the league may suspend the defensive tackle indefinitely. Russell missed 18 months while serving two suspensions before playing eight games for the Redskins in 2003.

Our View

If Russell were punished for violating the terms of his treatment program, he would be eligible to apply for reinstatement after week eight of the NFL season. However, it's doubtful that commissioner Paul Tagliabue would allow him to return even at the point, given that this would be Russell's seventh substance abuse violation. Darrell is quickly becoming the NFL's version of Steve Howe, who was suspended seven times and eventually banned for life by Major League Baseball due to numerous drug-related infractions.

Redskins_P · 07-16-2004, 10:12 AM

What a waste........whatever punishment he receives he did good job of earning it.

BrudLee · 07-19-2004, 10:09 AM

From Len P.:
No one in Washington, where Darrell Russell appeared in eight games in 2003, was very surprised when Tampa Bay released the trouble defensive tackle Tuesday afternoon. After all, the Redskins were the first misguided franchise to provide Russell a chance to salvage his career, coming off an 18-month suspension for repeat violations of the NFL substance abuse policy, and he repaid them with a string of listless performances. He was suspended by the team for the final game of the season for violating a club rule. Redskins officials were not stunned, either, when ESPN's Chris Mortensen reported that Russell was cut by the Bucs because he had tested positive for alcohol, thus violating the parameters of his aftercare program. Late last year, Redskins officials and players were alarmed over the quantity of alcohol Russell was tossing down during the team's annual Christmas party at owner Dan Snyder's digs. Fact is, some team officials wondered aloud at the Christmas party if Russell was, indeed, violating his NFL probation. Recalled one player: "Even if it wasn't (a violation), you'd have thought that a guy with his history, trying to make it back into the league, would have been a little more (discreet), right? I mean, if you're Darrell Russell, you've got to know they're watching every move. But he didn't seem to care." It remains to be seen if any other team takes a chance on Russell now although, the point may be moot, if the NFL suspends him again. Defensive linemen who weigh 300 pounds and are as athletic as Russell are always tempting. But given his penchant for recidivism, getting another opportunity will be difficult. Certainly he'll never have a support group like the one in Tampa, with general manager Bruce Allen, coach Jon Gruden, and d-line coach Rod Marinelli. It should have been a blessed trinity for Russell, since Allen drafted him in Oakland, Gruden coached him there, and Marinelli was his college position coach at Southern California. If that threesome couldn't convince Russell to walk the straight and narrow, chances are no one else can, either.

Anyone else want to re-sign this jackass?

MTK · 07-19-2004, 10:25 AM

If he couldn't make it in Tampa he's not going to make it anywhere. That was the best situation possible for him and he straight up blew it.... before they even got to training camp!

skinsfanthru&thru · 07-19-2004, 11:35 AM

I wonder why none of the skins went up to him to ask him what the hell he was doing. I don't remember what the whispers were saying about him as far as his presence in the locker room but I'd have thought a fellow player or coach would atleast go up to him and see why he was getting plastered at a team event.

07-15-2004, 03:07 PM	#6
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	I'm thinking there won't be any rush to get this guy http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1840351 __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

07-16-2004, 02:45 AM	#10
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07-19-2004, 10:09 AM	#13
BrudLee Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Rehoboth Beach, DE Posts: 3,494	From Len P.: No one in Washington, where Darrell Russell appeared in eight games in 2003, was very surprised when Tampa Bay released the trouble defensive tackle Tuesday afternoon. After all, the Redskins were the first misguided franchise to provide Russell a chance to salvage his career, coming off an 18-month suspension for repeat violations of the NFL substance abuse policy, and he repaid them with a string of listless performances. He was suspended by the team for the final game of the season for violating a club rule. Redskins officials were not stunned, either, when ESPN's Chris Mortensen reported that Russell was cut by the Bucs because he had tested positive for alcohol, thus violating the parameters of his aftercare program. Late last year, Redskins officials and players were alarmed over the quantity of alcohol Russell was tossing down during the team's annual Christmas party at owner Dan Snyder's digs. Fact is, some team officials wondered aloud at the Christmas party if Russell was, indeed, violating his NFL probation. Recalled one player: "Even if it wasn't (a violation), you'd have thought that a guy with his history, trying to make it back into the league, would have been a little more (discreet), right? I mean, if you're Darrell Russell, you've got to know they're watching every move. But he didn't seem to care." It remains to be seen if any other team takes a chance on Russell now although, the point may be moot, if the NFL suspends him again. Defensive linemen who weigh 300 pounds and are as athletic as Russell are always tempting. But given his penchant for recidivism, getting another opportunity will be difficult. Certainly he'll never have a support group like the one in Tampa, with general manager Bruce Allen, coach Jon Gruden, and d-line coach Rod Marinelli. It should have been a blessed trinity for Russell, since Allen drafted him in Oakland, Gruden coached him there, and Marinelli was his college position coach at Southern California. If that threesome couldn't convince Russell to walk the straight and narrow, chances are no one else can, either. Anyone else want to re-sign this jackass? __________________ There's nowhere to go but up. Or down. I guess we could stay where we are, too.

07-14-2004, 01:47 PM	#3
BossHog Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Norfolk, Va Posts: 665	Maybe Russell feels that he doesn't have to prove himself till the season starts. He was a monster DL before his off field problems caught up with him. It's not the same situation as Darryl Gardener as he had off the field, bad locker room presence, and a bad back. Russell doens't have his own regimen. And it seems that no team so far is willing to wait for him to get into shape.

07-14-2004, 04:40 PM	#4
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,620	i thought it was stupid when we picked him up... then he was late for everything and out of shape... i can't even believe another team would bother. Now i'm pretty sure his career is over... hope he didnt waste all that cash on pills and such , he's gonna need it.

07-15-2004, 03:58 PM	#7
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Aldie, VA Age: 47 Posts: 4,101	The guy is a freaking crack head. Plain and simple.

07-15-2004, 09:42 PM	#8
EEich The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bristol, CT Age: 61 Posts: 1,001	Chris Mortensen reported that he was let go for violating the terms of the substance abuse policy. He tested positive for alcohol, and that's a no-no for someone who had a previous drug suspension.

07-15-2004, 11:00 PM	#9
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	I believe that this is the seventh or eighth time that he has run afoul of the substance abuse guidelines meaning that he would be given an indefinite suspension even if he were on a team's roster. The Redskins need this guy like a moose needs a hat rack.

07-16-2004, 10:12 AM	#12
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Aldie, VA Age: 47 Posts: 4,101	What a waste........whatever punishment he receives he did good job of earning it.

07-19-2004, 10:25 AM	#14
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	If he couldn't make it in Tampa he's not going to make it anywhere. That was the best situation possible for him and he straight up blew it.... before they even got to training camp!

07-19-2004, 11:35 AM	#15
skinsfanthru&thru Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 45 Posts: 3,814	I wonder why none of the skins went up to him to ask him what the hell he was doing. I don't remember what the whispers were saying about him as far as his presence in the locker room but I'd have thought a fellow player or coach would atleast go up to him and see why he was getting plastered at a team event.

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