Good article on Skins from USAToday

Schneed10 · 05-24-2007, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by FRPLG

I have a sneaking suspicion that Carlos Rogers is going to step it up this year. I don't know that he'll ever be an elite corner but I think he can become a good CB1. His play last year simply wasn't as bad as most want to believe. If you watched him objectively you saw a lot of better than average coverage with basically no help from the front 7. Dropped INTs really should count as a factor when comparing elite CBs. If they can cover and prevent completed passes then anything else is gravy. Plus the dropped INTs were somewhat of a fluke. No way he drops another 6 INTs this year. The law of statistics says it isn't possible. He'll be fine.

He had thumb issues last year, that could have contributed to the drops. Even that notwithstanding, I can't imagine he'd be any worse than he was last year.

That's a concept that really applies to the entire D, actually.

JDALY27 · 05-24-2007, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

He had thumb issues last year, that could have contributed to the drops. Even that notwithstanding, I can't imagine he'd be any worse than he was last year.

That's a concept that really applies to the entire D, actually.

Rogers wasn't that bad last year. They picked on Springs back-up and the Safeties over the top mostly.

Schneed10 · 05-24-2007, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JDALY27

Rogers wasn't that bad last year. They picked on Springs back-up and the Safeties over the top mostly.

I was talking about his ability to catch INTs. That was bad.

JDALY27 · 05-24-2007, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

I was talking about his ability to catch INTs. That was bad.

Yes it was. Don't know what type of spell was on the entire defense last year but turnovers just didn't materialize.

MTK · 05-24-2007, 12:27 PM

Hopefully by clearly defining the roles of the safeties it will help free up Taylor to be more of a ball hawk. It would be nice to see him pick off a bunch of passes this year. The big hits are nice, but turnovers are game changers.

JWsleep · 05-24-2007, 01:00 PM

Good article--the stunning stat of having the fewest take-aways EVER in a 16 game season says it all to me. NO WAY that we suck like that again. And TOs really determine games "up here" as Gibbs would say.

Plus, the second year of Saunders is going to make a big difference, IMO, not to mention JC.

But nothing will be easy for us. We've got to learn to win again, to be cocky, to believe in ourselves. That can be the toughest thing sometimes.

JWsleep · 05-24-2007, 01:02 PM

I agree about Carlos as well, btw. He's sort of been written off by everyone--it's Springs and Smoot getting all the press. Let's hope that lights a fire. Plus, if we can get pressure, it makes all the difference for CBs. No one can cover if there isn't some pressure up front, and we brought VERY little last year. Plus, with ST committed to help, things should improve for whoever our #2 CB is.

12thMan · 05-24-2007, 01:17 PM

Maybe we should start a "Carlos Rogers Watch" thread when the season begins? Could be fun.

Longtimefan · 05-24-2007, 02:41 PM

I like the pro-con prediction from USA, a neat way of saying we have no idea what the Redskins are going to do, but we won't predict doom and gloom. If we are better or worse than last year, or somewhere in between, either way they'll be right.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 05-25-2007, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Southpaw

How is Smoot a "Gibbs" guy? Gibbs drafted Rogers. He inherited Smoot, and then Smoot left.

I know you're a big Smoot fan, but you might be disappointed if you're really expecting him to start this season.

i am not a big smoot fan or a big rogers fan i am just saying based on experience and performance smoot has to have the edge

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 05-25-2007, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

I was talking about his ability to catch INTs. That was bad.

it was really terrible he needs to learn how to hang on to those he should train with deion like cham did and with darrell

KLHJ2 · 05-25-2007, 01:13 AM

Now we are arguing about who is going to start at corner? Please, who cares the coach will start the best two, and we have a solid 3 or 4 that are capable. What's the big deal?

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 05-25-2007, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by angryssg

Now we are arguing about who is going to start at corner? Please, who cares the coach will start the best two, and we have a solid 3 or 4 that are capable. What's the big deal?

rogers cant catch and according to some smoot cant tackle

KLHJ2 · 05-25-2007, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

rogers cant catch and according to some smoot cant tackle

Rogers is a Dback who cares as long as he breaks it up. He Is bound to catch some sooner or later. Smoot can tackle or maybe I was watching different games than everyone else.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 05-25-2007, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by angryssg

Rogers is a Dback who cares as long as he breaks it up. He Is bound to catch some sooner or later. Smoot can tackle or maybe I was watching different games than everyone else.

oh i know smoot can tackle it seems like people forgot the player smoot was for us when he was here he was not a nickel corner

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05-24-2007, 01:00 PM	#21
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 56 Posts: 4,719	Re: Good article on Skins from USAToday Good article--the stunning stat of having the fewest take-aways EVER in a 16 game season says it all to me. NO WAY that we suck like that again. And TOs really determine games "up here" as Gibbs would say. Plus, the second year of Saunders is going to make a big difference, IMO, not to mention JC. But nothing will be easy for us. We've got to learn to win again, to be cocky, to believe in ourselves. That can be the toughest thing sometimes. __________________ Hail from Houston!

05-24-2007, 01:02 PM	#22
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 56 Posts: 4,719	Re: Good article on Skins from USAToday I agree about Carlos as well, btw. He's sort of been written off by everyone--it's Springs and Smoot getting all the press. Let's hope that lights a fire. Plus, if we can get pressure, it makes all the difference for CBs. No one can cover if there isn't some pressure up front, and we brought VERY little last year. Plus, with ST committed to help, things should improve for whoever our #2 CB is. __________________ Hail from Houston!

05-24-2007, 01:17 PM	#23
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Good article on Skins from USAToday Maybe we should start a "Carlos Rogers Watch" thread when the season begins? Could be fun.

05-24-2007, 02:41 PM	#24
Longtimefan Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germantown, Md. Posts: 4,832	Re: Good article on Skins from USAToday I like the pro-con prediction from USA, a neat way of saying we have no idea what the Redskins are going to do, but we won't predict doom and gloom. If we are better or worse than last year, or somewhere in between, either way they'll be right. __________________ A revolution is coming and it will be televised.

05-25-2007, 01:13 AM	#27
KLHJ2 Inactive Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: DC Metro Area Age: 47 Posts: 5,829	Re: Good article on Skins from USAToday Now we are arguing about who is going to start at corner? Please, who cares the coach will start the best two, and we have a solid 3 or 4 that are capable. What's the big deal?

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