Are We Being Too Hard on Brandon Lloyd?

[skinsfan_nn]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

He hasn't done much to prove us wrong that's for sure. And his half-hearted effort on that INT on Sunday didn't help his case either.

Agree. We just missed it with the Lloyd signing and paid way to much for a under achiever.

IMO this will be his last year in DC, IF he doesn't take a MAJOR STEP!

[TheMalcolmConnection]

When you talk about half-hearted, are you talking about the jump or going after the DB after he intercepted it?

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

When you talk about half-hearted, are you talking about the jump or going after the DB after he intercepted it?

I've heard both.

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I've heard both.

IMO, he cut in front of the DB to try to make the catch. I didn't see any half hearted approach. He came up a little short and the DB made a good catch. Now, i didn't see the replay and I didn't see him after the INT was made. If i'm wrong tell me.

When i first saw it nothing told me that he wasn't trying.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by redsk1

IMO, he cut in front of the DB to try to make the catch. I didn't see any half hearted approach. He came up a little short and the DB made a good catch. Now, i didn't see the replay and I didn't see him after the INT was made. If i'm wrong tell me.

When i first saw it nothing told me that he wasn't trying.

I'm not here to dispute that. You saw what you saw.

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by redsk1

IMO, he cut in front of the DB to try to make the catch. I didn't see any half hearted approach. He came up a little short and the DB made a good catch. Now, i didn't see the replay and I didn't see him after the INT was made. If i'm wrong tell me.

When i first saw it nothing told me that he wasn't trying.

I think that he kind of quit running about the time the ball was being thrown and then started up again when he realized it was coming his way. He would have been in a better position to block out the defender if he had kept going. But, he still could have gotten it if he had timed his jump little better. I don't think one play should make or break anyone. I just think that this team is moving farther on and it's time for people to either get on the train or exit the platform (I'm pretty sure that was an engineer's cap that CP was wearing at his presser after the game). We can't hold Brandon's hand forever.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

I think that he kind of quit running about the time the ball was being thrown and then started up again when he realized it was coming his way. He would have been in a better position to block out the defender if he had kept going. But, he still could have gotten it if he had timed his jump little better. I don't think one play should make or break anyone. I just think that this team is moving farther on and it's time for people to either get on the train or exit the platform (I'm pretty sure that was an engineer's cap that CP was wearing at his presser after the game). We can't hold Brandon's hand forever.

Speaking of, CP. You know he says some crazy things in interviews at times, but I was impressed with his presser. Very serious and straight forward.

[Crazyhorse1]

Originally Posted by redsk1

IMO, he cut in front of the DB to try to make the catch. I didn't see any half hearted approach. He came up a little short and the DB made a good catch. Now, i didn't see the replay and I didn't see him after the INT was made. If i'm wrong tell me.

When i first saw it nothing told me that he wasn't trying.

I agree completely. The idea he didn't try hard enough seems ridiculous to me. He misplayed the ball by inches by cutting in front of the DB the way he did and may have been better served to just go up with him instead, but the botch, if there was one, had nothing to do with effort. Get a life, guys. He also caught a pass that was called back through no fault of his own.
I also don't believe he doesn't know the play book. He wouldn't be out there at all if he did. He also doesn't drop passes and has generally succeeded when the ball has been thrown to him.

The fact is, he's just as good here as he was in San Francisco. It's just the chemistry is different here and nobody's giving him a look or making him a first option. In SF, he was the looked for receiver. Here, he's got two great receivers ahead of him and a third receiver who's also probably better than he is.

[DGreene28]

Originally Posted by Crazyhorse1

I agree completely. The idea he didn't try hard enough seems ridiculous to me. He misplayed the ball by inches by cutting in front of the DB the way he did and may have been better served to just go up with him instead, but the botch, if there was one, had nothing to do with effort. Get a life, guys. He also caught a pass that was called back through no fault of his own.
I also don't believe he doesn't know the play book. He wouldn't be out there at all if he did. He also doesn't drop passes and has generally succeeded when the ball has been thrown to him.

The fact is, he's just as good here as he was in San Francisco. It's just the chemistry is different here and nobody's giving him a look or making him a first option. In SF, he was the looked for receiver. Here, he's got two great receivers ahead of him and a third receiver who's also probably better than he is.

Trust me when i say he didn't try to tackle the DB after the INT... Or take a look at the Film. IT DOESN"T LIE

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Crazyhorse1

The fact is, he's just as good here as he was in San Francisco. It's just the chemistry is different here and nobody's giving him a look or making him a first option. In SF, he was the looked for receiver. Here, he's got two great receivers ahead of him and a third receiver who's also probably better than he is.

This is true, but I don't think thats a defense of Lloyd. If anything, this is one of the biggest criticisms against him.

If we brought him in with the idea that he wouldn't improve his production at all, the guy who made that move needs to be fired. It makes sense that we brought him in expecting him to break out, and got exactly what we had seen in SF. Still a bad move, but at least the intent was in the right place.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

When you talk about half-hearted, are you talking about the jump or going after the DB after he intercepted it?

Both, he just didn't seem to want it bad enough.

[Cowell]

Yeah of all the things you can blame Brandon Lloyd for the INT is not one of them. Campbell overthrew him the man isn't 6'4.

[steveo395]

I was at the game and I was watching Lloyd that entire play. He was going deep in the endzone in single coverage, but once he got close to the endzone, he started to slow down. That was right when Campbell threw it, so then Lloyd looked up, started to speed up and ended up being short on the jump.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by steveo395

I was at the game and I was watching Lloyd that entire play. He was going deep in the endzone in single coverage, but once he got close to the endzone, he started to slow down. That was right when Campbell threw it, so then Lloyd looked up, started to speed up and ended up being short on the jump.

He had ample opportunity to make a play on the ball in one-on-one coverage. The idea there is, if you can't catch it, you don't let the defense catch it either. I was about 35-49 yds. away from that play, and I witnessed the same thing you did. I don't know how it looked to TV viewers, but being there, it was plain to see he could have done a much better job on the play.

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by steveo395

I was at the game and I was watching Lloyd that entire play. He was going deep in the endzone in single coverage, but once he got close to the endzone, he started to slow down. That was right when Campbell threw it, so then Lloyd looked up, started to speed up and ended up being short on the jump.

That's what I saw on replay as well.