sorry to think this but...replacing sean taylor

[BrunellMVP?]

I want another big hitting, game changing, ST type player...if there is one of those available...we need it...remember, we planned our entire D around Sean Taylor (so they say)...his absense leaves a large hole in the def.

my wish list for the draft is in the early rounds is Safety, D-line, and O-line.

[EternalEnigma21]

there's nobody that can fill that void... at least not coming up anytime soon...

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by sevier2

i know no one wants to think about his but the FS position is clearly a need now. No one on our active roster is capable of taking over, other than Landry but hes our SS.
Do we draft a safety or pick up a free agent?
Kenny Phillips is "the best saftey in college" by a lot of scouts and guess what. hes from The U. Reading his reviews everyone seems to compare him to Sean Taylor for his size. 6'1-220. with the speed of Reed.
all the same terms apply that did to Taylor. Ballhawk, Hard Hitter, Smart player.
So do we draft him or is it too weird to take a player so similar so soon?
http://www.nfldraftdog.com/images/Kenny%20Phillips.jpg

If we did draft that kid I would feel bad for him. It would be so hard to even think about trying to fill Sean's shoes.

[jsarno]

Seriously...what the hell did the skins do to deserve this bad luck? The freakin cowboys were a bunch of thugs and druggies and they have had a better history of luck. The Pats cheat, and they won 3 super bowls and likely on to their 4th. We are an honest and respectable team and we have shit for luck!

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Seriously...what the hell did the skins do to deserve this bad luck? The freakin cowboys were a bunch of thugs and druggies and they have had a better history of luck. The Pats cheat, and they won 3 super bowls and likely on to their 4th. We are an honest and respectable team and we have shit for luck!

Karma has to even things out at some point, right?? (I hope!)

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Karma has to even things out at some point, right?? (I hope!)

Well, we've been in the shadows since our last SB win. That's over a decade and half ago. I don't get it. Carma should have already shined on us.

[Rock31]

Not that my name gives it away, but I'm a big advocate of Rock. Just as Brian Mitchell became my favorite Skin growing up (with his gritty and no-holds-barred return style), Rock has earned the new honors.

My point here is to float Rock as a possible replacement for Sean, should he learn the techniques a free safety employs. It is not likely the Skins would consider such a role change for No. 31, but let's list the attributes that would qualify Rock for secondary action:

1. He is a smart player who rarely misses tackling assignments (when playing kick-return defense).

2. Rock delivers the big hits and could possibly instill fear in an opponent.

3. He can shift his running route in the open field, which would bode well for fine free safety execution.

4. Rock could still double as the kick returner.

What do you think?

[NYCSkin]

Originally Posted by Rock31

Not that my name gives it away, but I'm a big advocate of Rock. Just as Brian Mitchell became my favorite Skin growing up (with his gritty and no-holds-barred return style), Rock has earned the new honors.

My point here is to float Rock as a possible replacement for Sean, should he learn the techniques a free safety employs. It is not likely the Skins would consider such a role change for No. 31, but let's list the attributes that would qualify Rock for secondary action:

1. He is a smart player who rarely misses tackling assignments (when playing kick-return defense).

2. Rock delivers the big hits and could possibly instill fear in an opponent.

3. He can shift his running route in the open field, which would bode well for fine free safety execution.

4. Rock could still double as the kick returner.

What do you think?

Rock's a running back so I don't think he would be able to make that kind of a switch. If you're thinking about switching a current player to free--I would nominate Springs--as moving from CB to FS is probably easier and has been done before.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Rock31

Not that my name gives it away, but I'm a big advocate of Rock. Just as Brian Mitchell became my favorite Skin growing up (with his gritty and no-holds-barred return style), Rock has earned the new honors.

My point here is to float Rock as a possible replacement for Sean, should he learn the techniques a free safety employs. It is not likely the Skins would consider such a role change for No. 31, but let's list the attributes that would qualify Rock for secondary action:

1. He is a smart player who rarely misses tackling assignments (when playing kick-return defense).

2. Rock delivers the big hits and could possibly instill fear in an opponent.

3. He can shift his running route in the open field, which would bode well for fine free safety execution.

4. Rock could still double as the kick returner.

What do you think?

I like Fred Smoot but I don't want him play QB...Rock would get abused at safety. Mainly because he's 5'7" (not many safeties that small) and as far as I know has no vertical

[sportscurmudgeon]

Clearly I'd rather bring back Ade Jimoh for 16 games as the starting safety before putting Rock Cartwright there. It's OK to admire Cartwright for his special teams play but when the dawn of reality arrives, that's all he is - - a special teams player.

If you think along those lines, Lorenzo Alexander plays offense and defense and special teams so he must be REALLY versatile. How about converting him to a WR...?

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Seriously...what the hell did the skins do to deserve this bad luck? The freakin cowboys were a bunch of thugs and druggies and they have had a better history of luck. The Pats cheat, and they won 3 super bowls and likely on to their 4th. We are an honest and respectable team and we have shit for luck!

We're paying for our sins of disrespecting the draft (trading mid round picks left and right), and for giving top dollar to marginal players (Lloyd/Archuleta). Our sins are much more damning in this age of salary cap football.

[chocho]

why dont you work on getting an o line

[Cowell]

There are so many needs for this team it's kind of mind boggling. I really think that we should draft based on the talent available where we need it. We really need some depth for the o-line but that is what the 3-6th rounds are for. I think that the first 2 rounds should be a FS and a D linemen.

[Tha Posse]

Man I think we take Kenny Phillips, from there we draft d-line, then o line. It may be a strange pick since he's for the U, but IMO a good one. No one could ever replace ST!

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Tha Posse

Man I think we take Kenny Phillips, from there we draft d-line, then o line. It may be a strange pick since he's for the U, but IMO a good one. No one could ever replace ST!

I can agree with that kind of drafting priority. We could certainly justify using our 1st rounder on a FS and a guy like KP. Using our 2nd rounder on a DT or DE would also be a good idea. Finally, using our 3rd rounder on an O-lineman would be a good move. We don't need to use a top pick on an O-lineman since we should have 5 solid starters for next season. Although 1 or 2 of our O-lineman will likely be gone by 2009, using a 3rd rounder on an O-lineman who can develop for a year prior to hitting the field would be a move that I could get behind.