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Old 02-28-2008, 12:52 PM   #1
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He's already been identified by Cerrato as a potential target. It all depends on how the draft unfolds.
I've watched a lot of film on both. Hillis is just as good of a blocker if not better... and a way better receiver. Don't think we want to draft a FB that high but you never know
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Old 02-28-2008, 10:51 AM   #2
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I respect your opinion(not your avatar) and feel everyone should be objective. Sure Sellars had an off year last year, but goddamn he is a horse. He is definitely a core Skin and can do it all. I still get chills watching the clip of that Lion he trucked last year. Thanks for your insight but he is here to stay in my opinion. Then again if I was so smart I would own the team and Danny would be selling beer at my stadium.
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Old 02-28-2008, 11:01 AM   #3
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Nothing wrong with Sellers. He's very athletic for his size, he will fit in just fine with the new system.
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Old 02-29-2008, 06:15 PM   #4
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Sellars has skills. Several years back he showed us he has hands. Plus, he's got heart. Skins will keep him; as they should.
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Old 02-28-2008, 11:03 AM   #5
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IMO, Seller's weakness has been pass blocking, which doesn't make him a good TE. He had some good games pass blocking at the end of the season, but it's not what he does best.

In the WCO how much do FBs need to pass block? seems not too much as the dropbacks are shorter. He can catch, run & run block. Just because you run a 'spread offense' doesn't mean the FB isn't asked to lead block. What did Mack Strong do all of those years in Seattle.

While I don't see Sellers losing his starting FB job, I think it's possible that his playing time will diminish some as they use more 3-4 reciever sets & only 1 back.
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Old 02-28-2008, 11:08 AM   #6
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I don't think he said anything about Sellers not being a core guy. He never mentioned gettng rid of Sellers, he simply was implying that Sellers may be small for the position and not able to make the holes a true FB would make. I'm guessing this is what was meant. I love Sellers...especially when he bowls people over but blocking a 300 pound man away from a hole and running over a 180-200 pound man are two different stories.

I don't mind him being a FB or a TE but last yr I wondered why sometimes he was used a FB especially on the goal line when we went nowhere. Why could we not make the hole or a bigger person to generate the hole? I'm sure Zorn will figure out how best to use him.
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Old 02-28-2008, 11:14 AM   #7
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I don't think he said anything about Sellers not being a core guy. He never mentioned gettng rid of Sellers, he simply was implying that Sellers may be small for the position and not able to make the holes a true FB would make. I'm guessing this is what was meant. I love Sellers...especially when he bowls people over but blocking a 300 pound man away from a hole and running over a 180-200 pound man are two different stories.

I don't mind him being a FB or a TE but last yr I wondered why sometimes he was used a FB especially on the goal line when we went nowhere. Why could we not make the hole or a bigger person to generate the hole? I'm sure Zorn will figure out how best to use him.
Now I'm really confused.
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Old 02-28-2008, 11:20 AM   #8
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I don't think he said anything about Sellers not being a core guy. He never mentioned gettng rid of Sellers, he simply was implying that Sellers may be small for the position and not able to make the holes a true FB would make. I'm guessing this is what was meant. I love Sellers...especially when he bowls people over but blocking a 300 pound man away from a hole and running over a 180-200 pound man are two different stories.

I don't mind him being a FB or a TE but last yr I wondered why sometimes he was used a FB especially on the goal line when we went nowhere. Why could we not make the hole or a bigger person to generate the hole? I'm sure Zorn will figure out how best to use him.
Huh? Mike Sellers is 6-3 284 lbs. You can certainly critique some parts of his game, but you might be the first person to ever refer to him as a "small" guy.

In the classic WCO (Bill Walsh) the fullback was key as a receiver and used to maximize the number of eligible receivers. Tom Rathman was the prototype (probably someone else in his days with the Bengals pre-dated Rathman, but my memory does not extend that far). He always caught 30-50 balls and in 1989 had 73 receptions.

As with most things, though, there are exceptions and variations on the WCO. For instance, in the run heavy WCO Seattle team that went to the SB a few years ago, Mack Strong was a battering ram for Shaun Alexander. I don't think Mike Sellers is going anywhere any time soon.
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Old 02-28-2008, 11:19 AM   #9
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Re: Zorn's next fullback!

I don't know about Sellers being too small for the position, I was just saying that he may not be as fast nor is his hands a good fit the position. Just watch some Weaver highlights at seahawks.com and I'm telling you he makes that offense run smooth just as Morris does at rb.
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sellers is absolutely the man, he is one of the best FB in the NFL. just because this is a WC offense, doesn't mean he wont be used. Seattle required a lead blocker in their system and sellers will be just that. The guy can catch, athletic enought out of the back field to run over and jump over people.

now, if you think of drafting a FB, how could you pass on Owen Schmidt from WVU. He is a monster and the true meaning to old school, nasty, punch you in the mouth FB.
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sellers is absolutely the man, he is one of the best FB in the NFL. just because this is a WC offense, doesn't mean he wont be used. Seattle required a lead blocker in their system and sellers will be just that. The guy can catch, athletic enought out of the back field to run over and jump over people.

now, if you think of drafting a FB, how could you pass on Owen Schmidt from WVU. He is a monster and the true meaning to old school, nasty, punch you in the mouth FB.

But he's not a 90 on Madden. We need players rated 90 and above at every position. Plus the only RB I'm going to spend my training camp drills on this year is Clinton Portis.
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Old 02-28-2008, 03:14 PM   #12
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But he's not a 90 on Madden. We need players rated 90 and above at every position. Plus the only RB I'm going to spend my training camp drills on this year is Clinton Portis.
That game chronically overrates players. Chill out son!
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Old 02-28-2008, 11:22 AM   #13
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I said I may be assuming that, thats what he meant. Not sure. Why else would one want to replace Sellers from a FB position? cause he is not blocking well or running the ball well. I think we all know he runs the ball well and does a good job catching so I was guessing as to what he might have meant. I do recall times where Sellers did not make the hole for the running back. Usually Portis. and usually at the goal line.
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Old 02-28-2008, 11:23 AM   #14
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Sellers is undoubtably the man for now, but I expect the team will be looking for depth at the position in the upcoming draft.
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Old 02-28-2008, 11:25 AM   #15
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Mack Strong was also a bigger threat catching balls out of the backfield ala Weaver. Sellers can catch but he can not take a flat and turn up field for a 20 yard gain. Sellers is just too slow.
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