Now that Favre is officially done, where does he rank all time?

jdlea · 03-04-2008, 02:11 PM

I have Brett Favre first all time because he's now the benchmark. I also love the way he played the game of football. No one, in my mind, will measure up to him in my eyes. Admittedly, I'm not being objective, but for me, there's no one better.

Paintrain · 03-04-2008, 02:24 PM

Top 10 for me.. He's not above (from my lifetime) Montana, Unitas, Elway, Brady not to even mention older NFL vets.. He greatly benefited from a wide open era, favorable offensive rules and expansion (also know as dilution) allowing him to play longer against weaker comp than the old timers. I know Brady has those same parameters, but he has more jewelry.

You should have heard Solomon Wilcots on NFL Radio talking about him. It was like Jesus had just retired from religion. He was saying he was the best there ever was, that Hollywood will be calling for a movie on his life story, blah, blah, blah..

jsarno · 03-04-2008, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Paintrain

Top 10 for me.. He's not above (from my lifetime) Montana, Unitas, Elway, Brady not to even mention older NFL vets.. He greatly benefited from a wide open era, favorable offensive rules and expansion (also know as dilution) allowing him to play longer against weaker comp than the old timers. I know Brady has those same parameters, but he has more jewelry.

You should have heard Solomon Wilcots on NFL Radio talking about him. It was like Jesus had just retired from religion. He was saying he was the best there ever was, that Hollywood will be calling for a movie on his life story, blah, blah, blah..

I'm sorry, but no way Elway ranks over Favre. There's just no way. I can see others (too early on Brady though), but not Elway.

SKINSnCANES · 03-04-2008, 02:55 PM

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I'm sorry, but no way Elway ranks over Favre. There's just no way. I can see others (too early on Brady though), but not Elway.

How many super bowls did Elway go to, four?

Slingin Sammy 33 · 03-04-2008, 03:09 PM

Top 20, probably not Top 10. Here are eight guys that IMO are hands down better: Peyton Manning, Brady, Marino, Elway, Baugh, Graham, Unitas, Montana.

Others to discuss; Steve Young, Aikman, Tarkenton, Kelly. Favre was very good, but many of his numbers are inflated because he was so durable and played so long (not bad things, but they do inflate stats).

SmootSmack · 03-04-2008, 03:49 PM

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Favre was very good, but many of his numbers are inflated because he was so durable and played so long (not bad things, but they do inflate stats).

But he shouldn't be punished for that. If anything it should be the opposite, I'd think. I mean would you rank Kurt Warner one of the game's bests because of 1999 (and maybe 2001?)

hooskins · 03-04-2008, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Top 20, probably not Top 10. Here are eight guys that IMO are hands down better: Peyton Manning, Brady, Marino, Elway, Baugh, Graham, Unitas, Montana.

Others to discuss; Steve Young, Aikman, Tarkenton, Kelly. Favre was very good, but many of his numbers are inflated because he was so durable and played so long (not bad things, but they do inflate stats).

I agree with your top 8 there.

jsarno · 03-04-2008, 11:34 PM

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How many super bowls did Elway go to, four?

So by that logic, players like Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer are better than Dan Marino????
ps- in case you didn't notice, football is a team game. Look at the stats, Favre blows him away.

Paintrain · 03-04-2008, 03:53 PM

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I'm sorry, but no way Elway ranks over Favre. There's just no way. I can see others (too early on Brady though), but not Elway.

Absolutely Elway, 5 SB over the life of his career including 2 wins, the king of the comeback victory (47 career), had running skills (7 seasons over 200 yds rushing) and passing (7 seasons over 3,000 yards).. Dude is a legend..

GTripp0012 · 03-04-2008, 04:02 PM

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Absolutely Elway, 5 SB over the life of his career including 2 wins, the king of the comeback victory (47 career), had running skills (7 seasons over 200 yds rushing) and passing (7 seasons over 3,000 yards).. Dude is a legend..

Elway is overrated. He's definately was a great player who came up clutch a bunch of times in his career, but Farve (even on a per play basis) totally wipes his ass in all statistical categories, including MVPs won.

Elway had a long and successful career with lots of historic moments. His career just wasn't quite as good as Favres.

MTK · 03-04-2008, 04:07 PM

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Elway is overrated. He's definately was a great player who came up clutch a bunch of times in his career, but Farve (even on a per play basis) totally wipes his ass in all statistical categories, including MVPs won.

Elway had a long and successful career with lots of historic moments. His career just wasn't quite as good as Favres.

I tend to agree with that.

firstdown · 03-04-2008, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Paintrain

Absolutely Elway, 5 SB over the life of his career including 2 wins, the king of the comeback victory (47 career), had running skills (7 seasons over 200 yds rushing) and passing (7 seasons over 3,000 yards).. Dude is a legend..

I thought he had 6 SB's. Didn't they loose 4 in a row then won those two back to back.

Dirtbag59 · 03-04-2008, 04:37 PM

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I thought he had 6 SB's. Didn't they loose 4 in a row then won those two back to back.

Off the top of my head they lost to the Giants, 49ers (ass whooping), and the Redskins (another ass whooping).

Afterwards they won two in a row beating the Packers then the Falcons and Chris Chandler.

So 5 Super Bowls with a 2-3 record.

Paintrain · 03-04-2008, 05:36 PM

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I thought he had 6 SB's. Didn't they loose 4 in a row then won those two back to back.

That was Jim Kelly and the Bills, except he never won.

Skinsfanmania · 03-05-2008, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jsarno

I'm sorry, but no way Elway ranks over Favre. There's just no way. I can see others (too early on Brady though), but not Elway.

Elway played in five super bowls and won two of them. The three super bowls they lost the only reason they got there was because of Elway, because they really weren't that good of a team.

Look at Elway in his prime while he was winning super bowls, vs. Favre during the same time in his prime. Elway won two MVPs.

Favre is not in the top 10 in my book.

03-04-2008, 02:11 PM	#1
jdlea Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, VA Age: 41 Posts: 3,109	Re: Now that Favre is officially done, where does he rank all time? I have Brett Favre first all time because he's now the benchmark. I also love the way he played the game of football. No one, in my mind, will measure up to him in my eyes. Admittedly, I'm not being objective, but for me, there's no one better.

03-04-2008, 02:24 PM	#2
Paintrain Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Age: 54 Posts: 5,006	Re: Now that Favre is officially done, where does he rank all time? Top 10 for me.. He's not above (from my lifetime) Montana, Unitas, Elway, Brady not to even mention older NFL vets.. He greatly benefited from a wide open era, favorable offensive rules and expansion (also know as dilution) allowing him to play longer against weaker comp than the old timers. I know Brady has those same parameters, but he has more jewelry. You should have heard Solomon Wilcots on NFL Radio talking about him. It was like Jesus had just retired from religion. He was saying he was the best there ever was, that Hollywood will be calling for a movie on his life story, blah, blah, blah.. __________________ Paintrain's Redskins Fandom 1981-2014 I'm not dead but this team is dead to me...but now that McCloughan is here they may have new life! Jay Gruden = Zorny McSpurrier Kirk Cousins = Next Grossman

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Slingin Sammy 33 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 4,347	Re: Now that Favre is officially done, where does he rank all time? Top 20, probably not Top 10. Here are eight guys that IMO are hands down better: Peyton Manning, Brady, Marino, Elway, Baugh, Graham, Unitas, Montana. Others to discuss; Steve Young, Aikman, Tarkenton, Kelly. Favre was very good, but many of his numbers are inflated because he was so durable and played so long (not bad things, but they do inflate stats). __________________ "I would bet.....(if), an angel fairy came down and said, '[You can have anything] in the world you would like to own,' I wouldn't be surprised if you said a football club and particularly the Washington Redskins.'' — Jack Kent Cooke, 1996.

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