No Death Penalty for Taylor's Killers; Fifth Suspect Charged; Suspect Pleads Guilty

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Lady Brave

High profile inmates are usually kept in special segregated housing units. I doubt they would interact much with the general inmate population.

Don't "SHUs" house inmates who have gotten into fights in prison? If SHUs are a form of punishment and high-profile inmates go to SHUs, do high-profile inmates serve "tougher time" than your garden variety inmates in general population?

[Lady Brave]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Don't "SHUs" house inmates who have gotten into fights in prison? If SHUs are a form of punishment and high-profile inmates go to SHUs, do high-profile inmates serve "tougher time" than your garden variety inmates in general population?

They don't serve tougher time per se. High profile inmates are specially classified much like sex offenders are. They still have the same privileges as other inmates, they're just placed under a "keep separate" status. It's generally not in the best interest of the prison to have these types of inmates mixed in with the general population due to various security concerns.

[MPNRedskins]

A.M.F. to those sorry bastards who killed Sean. When they get in the prison and the inmates find out who they are, they will probably be taken care of accordingly - prison style. Whether that's getting their a**holes stretched out a whole lot or straight up killed, something will happen. Oh, and if you don't know what A.M.F. stands for, it means "Adios Mother F*cker"!

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by Lady Brave

They don't serve tougher time per se. High profile inmates are specially classified much like sex offenders are. They still have the same privileges as other inmates, they're just placed under a "keep separate" status. It's generally not in the best interest of the prison to have these types of inmates mixed in with the general population due to various security concerns.

Thanx LB,
Based on your vocation, you ad an interesting insight into such matters.
Speaking for myself, the whole Sean thing has left me......kind of empty on the matter. I want them them to pay, but I cannot get to zealous about it

[Captain_Chaos_73]

Im sure.. gettin senticed to life in prison, wont be a long sentence for any of these (Fword) sticks

[70Chip]

If these guys don't deserve the death penalty then no one does. The death penalty seems to be reserved for cop and child killers these days. Fair enough I suppose. I hope these guys get to eat that nutri-loaf or whatever it is for the rest of their long lives.

[wilsowilso]

Like the article says this was never going to be a death penalty case from the outset. There was no evidence that these idiots intended to murder Sean and the shooter was a minor. I say the two kids in the house at the time of the terrible confrontation which includes the shooter get first degree murder while the other two might get a lesser sentence. It's possible one of these idiots was even at the wrong place at the wrong time, but he will have a hell of a time trying to prove it.

[beau_str]

i'm not a lawyer but i was reading the comments on the story on MSN. somebody stated that life in prison for a first time felon in florida means they can get out after serving 15 years. i realy hope this is not right. that means riviera would be out by the age of 31.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by beau_str

i'm not a lawyer but i was reading the comments on the story on MSN. somebody stated that life in prison for a first time felon in florida means they can get out after serving 15 years. i realy hope this is not right. that means riviera would be out by the age of 31.

That may or may not be true but if you get a life in prison without the possibility of parole then I do believe that means you are in prison for the rest of your life. Maybe if he got 15 to life he'd be eligible after serving 15 years.

[mooby]

While part of me wants all of these bastards to be given the death penalty because it was Sean Taylor they killed, the logic in me says it shouldn't happen. This wasn't premeditated and I would be happy knowing they got life in prison because in some ways a death sentence is just taking the easy way out.

Also, what constitutes a 1st degree murder? I'm not familiar with the differences between 1st/2nd/3rd degree murder.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by mooby

Also, what constitutes a 1st degree murder? I'm not familiar with the differences between 1st/2nd/3rd degree murder.

Each state legislature determines what constitutes the difference between first, second, and third degree murder. As you might have guessed, first degree murder is the most serious of the three and typically involves premeditation and/or the death of a law enforcement officer. Second degree murder typically entails the intentional, but "non-premeditated" (a fine distinction), killing of another person. The types of acts that can constitute third degree murder vary wildly from state to state. However, I believe "crimes of passion" may fall within that category. So, for example, if I walk into my bedroom and catch Smootsmack with my wife and I kill him, I may face third degree murder instead of second degree murder due to the surrounding circumstances.

In any case, I think the whole discussion is rather moot ... at least with regard to the shooter. It's not exceeding difficult to prove felony murder in the case of a robbery. The shooter is royally f'ed and I cannot see the prosecution entering into a plea agreement whereunder the shooter serves less than 50 or so years. But, what do I know, I'm not a criminal lawyer.

On a related note, when should cost EVER be a factor in determining whether to execute someone or send them to life in prison? The notion that the cost of (not) executing a convict should have ANY impact on the decision to (not) put someone to death is crazy. That sort of thinking appeals to Chinese communists and wackjobs. Under no circumstances should any rational person (especially a true "conservative") consider such things when debating whether someone should be put to death.

[HOGTIMUS PRIME]

To bad our tax dollars have to be wasted on keeping this vermin alive. Funny that we put so much value on the life of an individual, or individuals who they themselves put so little value on it. So an innocent man is murdered and we now all go to work to see that the individuals that murdered him live! You got to love it.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by HOGTIMUS PRIME

To bad our tax dollars have to be wasted on keeping this vermin alive. Funny that we put so much value on the life of an individual, or individuals who they themselves put so little value on it. So an innocent man is murdered and we now all go to work to see that the individuals that murdered him live! You got to love it.

When you get into the legal costs involved with a death penalty case (investigations, appeals, etc.) they actually end up being quite expensive vs. non-death penalty cases.

Costs of the Death Penalty

[HOGTIMUS PRIME]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

When you get into the legal costs involved with a death penalty case (investigations, appeals, etc.) they actually end up being quite expensive vs. non-death penalty cases.

Costs of the Death Penalty

A big reason why that happens is the outcry of people who want to fight to keep a murderer alive, when it's a clear cut case there shouldn't be any more money allocated than any other case. The fact that the cost to execute someone does escalate needs to be rectified.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

When you get into the legal costs involved with a death penalty case (investigations, appeals, etc.) they actually end up being quite expensive vs. non-death penalty cases.

Costs of the Death Penalty

You gotta be kidding me?? Not trying to turn this into a political debate but when you kill someone in cold blood you should be thrown into a alligator pit and it should be broadcasted on pay per view. Do away with all of this bullshit appeal nonsense. I bet that would stop all of this gun violence.