66 Months, Out in 5!

saden1 · 08-08-2008, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

There are reasons why civilian courts are not used and I don't have the time to look them up.

The reason they don't want to use civilian courts is because secret evidence and hearsay are not admissible in civilian courts.

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I do know one reason is because we are holding them as enemy combatants we have to use military tribunals (or what ever they are called).

That doesn't make sense at all. Do you mean "we are holding them as enemy combatant so we can use military tribunals."

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Originally Posted by firstdown

I also think even after his 5 months are up Bush will hold him as an enemy combatant as long as he is president.

Do you feel justice is being served? What's the point of the trial then? What about double jeopardy? Or incarceration without a trial?

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Originally Posted by firstdown

I agree what the judge said was weird and maybe he had his agenda. They may also use his words to call for a new trial as they maybe able to show the judge showed a bias attitude.

Hold it there!!! Aren't you jumping to conclusions? Maybe his intent was to mock him? Maybe his intent was to say "god willing we'll get ride of your ass?" You're not being fair. Also, there were 6 judges on the panel and you don't need a majority get a conviction.

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Originally Posted by firstdown

I would call military courts a kangaroo court as most do a good job and these guys have served our country. I have seen plenty of kangaroo civilian courts.

What is a kangaroo court? Please define it.

saden1 · 08-08-2008, 10:49 AM

Stop with the blame game and see the principles of the matter...and the question is what to do with him after he's out.

MTK · 08-08-2008, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by saden1

Stop with the blame game and see the principles of the matter...and the question is what to do with him after he's out.

lol good luck with that. The blame game is always a convenient excuse to skirt around the actual issues.

firstdown · 08-08-2008, 03:55 PM

I really cannot debate this stuff because I do not know enough about what and why these trials are done the way they are doing them. I do know I have heard the arguments as to why they are doing it this way but I just cannot remember the details. I think you used the term kangeroo court and I don't think it was praising their work.

That Guy · 08-09-2008, 04:52 PM

gitmo is jihadist U... takes in a lot of borderline cases for detention and turns them in hardened militants. The trials have had lots of problems with politicians trying to demand sentences and ignore due process. That whole thing is a mess, and infinite detention without need of any cause is a bit disturbing.

70Chip · 08-11-2008, 12:17 PM

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gitmo is jihadist U... takes in a lot of borderline cases for detention and turns them in hardened militants. The trials have had lots of problems with politicians trying to demand sentences and ignore due process. That whole thing is a mess, and infinite detention without need of any cause is a bit disturbing.

It would be a lot less disturbing if it actually were infinite. It wouldn't be so bad if I thought the CIA were competent to track these people once they are let go, but it's The Three Stooges Hour with them these days. Scalia was right. People will almost certainly die as as a result of the Supreme Court's ruling in Boumediene.

firstdown · 08-11-2008, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

gitmo is jihadist U... takes in a lot of borderline cases for detention and turns them in hardened militants. The trials have had lots of problems with politicians trying to demand sentences and ignore due process. That whole thing is a mess, and infinite detention without need of any cause is a bit disturbing.

Most of these people in Gitmo where captured while fighting against the us in Afganistan (spelling). I heard on guy defending one of the guys captured saying he just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time and I guess thats what all of them are saying. Hey I was just walking by this terrorist camp when this battle broke out and before I knew what happened I was taking away to Gitmo.

dmek25 · 08-11-2008, 12:27 PM

sometimes i wonder if these guys end up with more rights then i have. and i know they end up with better health care. what a f***ing joke

08-08-2008, 10:49 AM	#2
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 46 Posts: 10,069	Re: 66 Months, Out in 5! Stop with the blame game and see the principles of the matter...and the question is what to do with him after he's out. __________________ "The Redskins have always suffered from chronic organizational deformities under Snyder." -Jenkins

08-08-2008, 03:55 PM	#4
firstdown Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 61 Posts: 15,817	Re: 66 Months, Out in 5! I really cannot debate this stuff because I do not know enough about what and why these trials are done the way they are doing them. I do know I have heard the arguments as to why they are doing it this way but I just cannot remember the details. I think you used the term kangeroo court and I don't think it was praising their work.

08-09-2008, 04:52 PM	#5
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 43 Posts: 17,620	Re: 66 Months, Out in 5! gitmo is jihadist U... takes in a lot of borderline cases for detention and turns them in hardened militants. The trials have had lots of problems with politicians trying to demand sentences and ignore due process. That whole thing is a mess, and infinite detention without need of any cause is a bit disturbing.

08-11-2008, 12:27 PM	#8
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 64 Posts: 10,672	Re: 66 Months, Out in 5! sometimes i wonder if these guys end up with more rights then i have. and i know they end up with better health care. what a f***ing joke __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

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