Why did we keep Tryon?

Hog1 · 09-01-2008, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamaican'Skin

When Danny and the FO went on spending sprees during the FA period, fans complained that we weren't building through the draft enough. Now that the mindset has changed and they want to develop young talent, you all complain again. No, he's not a stud straight out of college, but if memory serves me right, he was a late round pick. Let this kid grow a little. He has the tutelage of Darrell Green, Shawn Springs, Fred Smoot, and Carlos Rogers. Let him learn. The worst that can happen is that he doesn't pan out and we release him.

Nice post JS!
You made through all the storms ok?

Jamaican'Skin · 09-01-2008, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog1

Nice post JS!
You made through all the storms ok?

Yeah me and my family did. Thanks for asking

Hog1 · 09-01-2008, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamaican'Skin

Yeah me and my family did. Thanks for asking

Good to hear! Hopefully Hannah will miss you as well. And.....maybe that will be it for this season?

Jamaican'Skin · 09-01-2008, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog1

Good to hear! Hopefully Hannah will miss you as well. And.....maybe that will be it for this season?

Thats what we're hoping

Warren85Ellard · 09-01-2008, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamaican'Skin

When Danny and the FO went on spending sprees during the FA period, fans complained that we weren't building through the draft enough. Now that the mindset has changed and they want to develop young talent, you all complain again. No, he's not a stud straight out of college, but if memory serves me right, he was a late round pick. Let this kid grow a little. He has the tutelage of Darrell Green, Shawn Springs, Fred Smoot, and Carlos Rogers. Let him learn. The worst that can happen is that he doesn't pan out and we release him.

I agree. I saw Tryon take on DeSean Jackson in college and he looked like a pro. Let's give him a shot...... Can I get a Justin Tryon avatar?

4thGenRedskin21 · 09-01-2008, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamaican'Skin

When Danny and the FO went on spending sprees during the FA period, fans complained that we weren't building through the draft enough. Now that the mindset has changed and they want to develop young talent, you all complain again. No, he's not a stud straight out of college, but if memory serves me right, he was a late round pick. Let this kid grow a little. He has the tutelage of Darrell Green, Shawn Springs, Fred Smoot, and Carlos Rogers. Let him learn. The worst that can happen is that he doesn't pan out and we release him.

Amen, i agree 100%. NO matter what, you can't please everyone. Im pretty excited that we are going through the draft. Even if some of the guys we draft dont work out, thats part of the draft, it's impossible to hit on every pick, be serious people

T.O.Killa · 09-01-2008, 01:59 PM

Prior to the preseason Greg Blache ranted and raved about Tryon saying "they realy hit on this pick". I think they realy like what they see in practice. I watched the games and he was often times in position, but did not make the play. I think he will improve. Also, I dont think they kept him because he was a draft choice, keeping nine out of ten draft picks is outstanding. Ten for ten is phenominal. Vinny is very good at picking draft choices, lets give them the benefit of the doubt.

dmvskinzfan08 · 09-01-2008, 02:09 PM

I guess time will tell. All I know is wht I have seen on the field so far..I am going to leave it at that..If he was a little more humble maybe things would have turned out better for him. But other players that weren't even drafted or were udfa's showed up. Fincher and Hamilton came to play..Moore and Horton. I just think you can't always go by what someone does in college. You must see it against pro-level competition. I dont even recall Carlos being this bad. He heas got burnt. But go back to all the games he playe din the preseason and look at them if you have them recorded. It seems like he got worst as the preseason went on and against 2nd string players..From his scouting report on Rivals beforehe got drafted ..They said he had talent but made bad reads. I hope we can coach him up...I really do..if not like I said..he will be a waste of a roster spot. he needs to be on PS until he improves..Not on the 53 man roster..that's obvious.

Ruhskins · 09-01-2008, 02:17 PM

I still cannot believe that people are so hard on a 4th round pick who did not do well in the preseason and overlook our "1st round quality" 2nd round pick receivers who were out of shape, missed camp, and have looked like crap when one of them played. I was surprised when the team kept Tryon, but obviously the kid needs to develop. Plus we got Smoot, Springs, Rogers, and Torrence ahead of Tryon, so hopefully we won't see him play except in special teams. Meanwhile, with our WRs we got Moss (who I pray doesn't get hurt), ARE with a broken bone in his hand, and Thrash...and after that we have these two rookies who missed camp, one of them was hurt, and the one that played has shown nothing. I'm not saying that Tryon earned that spot, it could have and should have easily gone to Richardson or Westbrook, but in the end having a 4th round bust is better than having a 2nd round bust...BUT we don't know this yet b/c both our 2nd round receivers and our 4th round CB need to develop.

dmvskinzfan08 · 09-01-2008, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I still cannot believe that people are so hard on a 4th round pick who did not do well in the preseason and overlook our "1st round quality" 2nd round pick receivers who were out of shape, missed camp, and have looked like crap when one of them played. I was surprised when the team kept Tryon, but obviously the kid needs to develop. Plus we got Smoot, Springs, Rogers, and Torrence ahead of Tryon, so hopefully we won't see him play except in special teams. Meanwhile, with our WRs we got Moss (who I pray doesn't get hurt), ARE with a broken bone in his hand, and Thrash...and after that we have these two rookies who missed camp, one of them was hurt, and the one that played has shown nothing. I'm not saying that Tryon earned that spot, it could have and should have easily gone to Richardson or Westbrook, but in the end having a 4th round bust is better than having a 2nd round bust...BUT we don't know this yet b/c both our 2nd round receivers and our 4th round CB need to develop.

Saying that. I do agree with you that Richardson looked better for the most part. I am worried about our WRs. Especially since ARE has a broken hand. Makes me think they made a mistake letting McMcullen go. So we have 5 receivers and two are hurt..two are unproven rookies..(but i think they will pan out before the middle of the season - i hope). With our depth at CB. I guess we should be ok with Tryon being a PROJECT. But I am puzzled as to why we didn't keep a 6th WR since Kelly was hurt. I guess we will hope for the best until ARE and Kelly get healthy and I am sure Davis plays into this also. I am just hoping for the best..

sportscurmudgeon · 09-01-2008, 03:48 PM

Maybe they kept Tryon as a place-holder. Maybe next Monday - - after all the vested veterans pass the trigger point so their contracts are not guaranteed for the entire season - - the Redskins will bring in a veteran CB that will put the squad over the top.

Who might that be?

Keep this quiet lest other teams get wind of it, but Tryon may disappear to make room for ...

Ade Jimoh

Dirtbag59 · 09-01-2008, 03:49 PM

One of the things I've been hearing from around the fan base in regards to the rational for keeping Tryon is that everytime he got burn he was able to keep up with the guys he was covering. The problem was that he wasn't getting his hands up and knocking the ball down, or better yet getting an interception on the plays where he got burned. So in turn the pro-Tryon people feel that if he can work on that last part of his game then he'll fine. I guess we'll see.

Paintrain · 09-01-2008, 04:03 PM

Why so much consternation over our 5th CB? The guy (if active) will see 10 plays per game MAX.. Maybe he's better on teams than Richardson.. He's cheaper than O'Neal would have been.. For all the griping on this and other sites about us not developing young talent-that's exactly what we are doing..

DCtoAZ · 09-01-2008, 06:42 PM

he's young and has talent .. RELAX..i couldn't agree more with the post about building through the draft ... how quickly we forget about the bitching on FA spending and never having draft picks ... let him learn and give the guy a shot -

doughtydoubter · 09-01-2008, 10:47 PM

Im with you guys, he gets the chance to develop behind some VERY good corners and learn the tricks of the trade. He just needs to learn to compensate for his size in a positive way. have him call darell green for some pointers.
But overall i predict he will be a solid backup for us given time.

09-01-2008, 01:59 PM	#7
T.O.Killa The Starter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Berlin, MD Posts: 2,061	Re: Why did we keep Tryon? Prior to the preseason Greg Blache ranted and raved about Tryon saying "they realy hit on this pick". I think they realy like what they see in practice. I watched the games and he was often times in position, but did not make the play. I think he will improve. Also, I dont think they kept him because he was a draft choice, keeping nine out of ten draft picks is outstanding. Ten for ten is phenominal. Vinny is very good at picking draft choices, lets give them the benefit of the doubt.

09-01-2008, 02:09 PM	#8
dmvskinzfan08 Impact Rookie Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 968	Re: Why did we keep Tryon? I guess time will tell. All I know is wht I have seen on the field so far..I am going to leave it at that..If he was a little more humble maybe things would have turned out better for him. But other players that weren't even drafted or were udfa's showed up. Fincher and Hamilton came to play..Moore and Horton. I just think you can't always go by what someone does in college. You must see it against pro-level competition. I dont even recall Carlos being this bad. He heas got burnt. But go back to all the games he playe din the preseason and look at them if you have them recorded. It seems like he got worst as the preseason went on and against 2nd string players..From his scouting report on Rivals beforehe got drafted ..They said he had talent but made bad reads. I hope we can coach him up...I really do..if not like I said..he will be a waste of a roster spot. he needs to be on PS until he improves..Not on the 53 man roster..that's obvious. __________________ HTTR 09 - RIP#21 HATERS << Misery Loves Company

09-01-2008, 02:17 PM	#9
Ruhskins Living Legend Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 22,378	Re: Why did we keep Tryon? I still cannot believe that people are so hard on a 4th round pick who did not do well in the preseason and overlook our "1st round quality" 2nd round pick receivers who were out of shape, missed camp, and have looked like crap when one of them played. I was surprised when the team kept Tryon, but obviously the kid needs to develop. Plus we got Smoot, Springs, Rogers, and Torrence ahead of Tryon, so hopefully we won't see him play except in special teams. Meanwhile, with our WRs we got Moss (who I pray doesn't get hurt), ARE with a broken bone in his hand, and Thrash...and after that we have these two rookies who missed camp, one of them was hurt, and the one that played has shown nothing. I'm not saying that Tryon earned that spot, it could have and should have easily gone to Richardson or Westbrook, but in the end having a 4th round bust is better than having a 2nd round bust...BUT we don't know this yet b/c both our 2nd round receivers and our 4th round CB need to develop. __________________ R.I.P. #21

09-01-2008, 03:48 PM	#11
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	Re: Why did we keep Tryon? Maybe they kept Tryon as a place-holder. Maybe next Monday - - after all the vested veterans pass the trigger point so their contracts are not guaranteed for the entire season - - the Redskins will bring in a veteran CB that will put the squad over the top. Who might that be? Keep this quiet lest other teams get wind of it, but Tryon may disappear to make room for ... Ade Jimoh __________________ The Sports Curmudgeon www.sportscurmudgeon.com But don't get me wrong, I love sports...

09-01-2008, 03:49 PM	#12
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 40 Posts: 14,750	Re: Why did we keep Tryon? One of the things I've been hearing from around the fan base in regards to the rational for keeping Tryon is that everytime he got burn he was able to keep up with the guys he was covering. The problem was that he wasn't getting his hands up and knocking the ball down, or better yet getting an interception on the plays where he got burned. So in turn the pro-Tryon people feel that if he can work on that last part of his game then he'll fine. I guess we'll see. __________________ "It's nice to be important, but its more important to be nice." - Scooter "I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now." - FRPLG

09-01-2008, 04:03 PM	#13
Paintrain Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Age: 54 Posts: 5,006	Re: Why did we keep Tryon? Why so much consternation over our 5th CB? The guy (if active) will see 10 plays per game MAX.. Maybe he's better on teams than Richardson.. He's cheaper than O'Neal would have been.. For all the griping on this and other sites about us not developing young talent-that's exactly what we are doing.. __________________ Paintrain's Redskins Fandom 1981-2014 I'm not dead but this team is dead to me...but now that McCloughan is here they may have new life! Jay Gruden = Zorny McSpurrier Kirk Cousins = Next Grossman

09-01-2008, 06:42 PM	#14
DCtoAZ Impact Rookie Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona Age: 44 Posts: 623	Re: Why did we keep Tryon? he's young and has talent .. RELAX..i couldn't agree more with the post about building through the draft ... how quickly we forget about the bitching on FA spending and never having draft picks ... let him learn and give the guy a shot - __________________ "F*CK THE DALLAS JUMBOTRON" NFC EAST CHAMPS RG3 will be back & #12 can run the show until hes ready.We are young w depth. 23,59,89 will all be back.Alfred Morris aka Diesel Hybrid ! @DCtoAZ81 ...2013 NFC CHAMPS

09-01-2008, 10:47 PM	#15
doughtydoubter Impact Rookie Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: the glorious city of DC Posts: 741	Re: Why did we keep Tryon? Im with you guys, he gets the chance to develop behind some VERY good corners and learn the tricks of the trade. He just needs to learn to compensate for his size in a positive way. have him call darell green for some pointers. But overall i predict he will be a solid backup for us given time.

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