Redskins-Giants: Offensive Review

[GhettoDogAllStars]

BTW, good job with this thread and the defensive review, GTripp. We've been lacking quality threads lately ... it's always nice to see this kind of stuff.

[Redskin Warrior]

Great Post Tripp I enjoyed it

[53Fan]

Excellent! Finally, level heads prevail. Great post.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I In the future, I’d hope that we see more 2 TE stuff from this offense, as two of our top offensive playmakers play that position.

Agreed

It’s hard to hold anything against Zorn thus far. I agree with any of you who think that the lack of a hurry-up offense was perplexing down the stretch, but Zorn masterfully ran down the clock in the first half prior to the Redskins only TD, so the clock management was definately a mixed bag.

Interesting, I would have used the adjective "fortunately" rathern than "masterfully"

The playcalling is obviously skewed due to the final two drives in which the Redskins were forced to throw. The playcalling was pretty even to that point, with a strong tendency to run on first down. I’m not really sure how I feel like that: if there is a weakness on the Giants, its their secondary, and we simply did not test them often enough. Still, I’m not mad that we ran the ball so often — even though the Giants had a great rush D last year, the run is going to be our bread and butter early in the season.

Again, agreed

Prior to that last, meaningless drive, Campbell had thrown only 19 passes. 19. That’s fewer than 5 passes per quarter! Put very simply, there isn’t a whole lot that Campbell should be expected to accomplish when throwing fewer than 5 times per quarter. Campbell looked hesitant and slow making his reads, sometimes struggling to find his second target if his primary target was covered. That’s not something that should inspire confidence in the fanbase, but it shouldn’t have been a complete shock.

Are you talking about actual passes, or pass plays? Are you factoring in false starts, sacks, etc. where no pass is actually thrown? Also, did you notice WRs "giving up" on the play as Moss implied he did on one play where it didn't develop as quickly as planned and Moss figured JC must have been sacked?

Pete Kendall had the best game of any of the linemen in pass pro.

And here I was about to predict Kendall would be benched for Jansen by week 4

Randle El- 7 for 73, 2 false starts

Two false starts is inexcusable for a veteran WR.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Are you talking about actual passes, or pass plays? Are you factoring in false starts, sacks, etc. where no pass is actually thrown? Also, did you notice WRs "giving up" on the play as Moss implied he did on one play where it didn't develop as quickly as planned and Moss figured JC must have been sacked?

The 19 passes were only passes thrown...that number becomes 20 if you include the one sack and 21 if you count the pass to Cooley that was called back by illegal man downfield.

And my choice of the word masterfully probably shows a bias I have to make the best out of the situation, but whether it was intentional or not, it's hard to chew up the clock and score any better than we did in the first half.

[JWsleep]

Great job, GTripp.

I have been thinking that about Sellers for a while now. He is not a high-quality pure FB, and that hurts the run game. He does lots of other things well, but that's an issue.

Cooley must improve on his run blocking. While it's a tough assignment at times with DEs, he needs to at least make some contact on those plays! Maybe when Fred Davis develops, it will free things up, but he's got to do better.

I think JC needs to throw more as well, but that's where the lack of 3rd down efficiency really killed us. A few more yards on a few of those 3rds and you get a new set of downs, more chance to open the playbook and use the previous plays to set things up, create mismatches, etc. Having to punt like a billion times does not allow an offense to get in rhythm. We hear that over and over, but it is true. And the rhythm is not just for JC. It's for Zorn and his playcalling.

Nice Job!

[mredskins]

I was wonder how long until the true H34 came back. Not even here can the world be perfect.

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by mredskins

I was wonder how long until the true H34 came back. Not even here can the world be perfect.

What is that supposed to mean?

I've learned to keep my head low and to turn a blind eye around here... but every now and then I find the courage to look up. Some things never change.....

[70Chip]

Anybody see that WR for the Eagles who was a second round draft pick yesterday? He looked like Gale fricking Sayers. We would have only needed to draft one of him.

Mr Snyder needs to understand just one thing. The fans in this town are not going to be hoodwinked into blaming this whole thing on Jim Zorn. This is his and Vinnies doing, so unless he is willing to relinquish ownerswhip of the team, he knows what needs to be done. Vinnie will land on his feet. He can go back to parking cars for the 49ers.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

Anybody see that WR for the Eagles who was a second round draft pick yesterday? He looked like Gale fricking Sayers. We would have only needed to draft one of him.

Mr Snyder needs to understand just one thing. The fans in this town are not going to be hoodwinked into blaming this whole thing on Jim Zorn. This is his and Vinnies doing, so unless he is willing to relinquish ownerswhip of the team, he knows what needs to be done. Vinnie will land on his feet. He can go back to parking cars for the 49ers.

Maybe our scouting wasn't good enough. I wonder if the team got too caught up with the whole "first round quality" label of our rookie WRs.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

What is that supposed to mean?

I've learned to keep my head low and to turn a blind eye around here... but every now and then I find the courage to look up. Some things never change.....

I knew this thread is old but that line is hilarous! Do you think you are f---ing John Wayne or something! HAHAHA!

[hesscl34]

It's football. I don't think it is possible to not have reactionary/emotional posts at least occasionally. We are Skins fans after all - the most passionate fans in the NFL.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Let's just remember this is JC's 4th year in the NFL -- and he didn't play a single game until halfway through his 2nd. The game against the Giants was only his 21st NFL game.

On top of all that, he's learning a new offense.

[That Guy]

i think it's retarded that cooley's line is 1 catch for 7 yards.

our TEs our much better than our receivers, so, we should, like, throw it their way... and stuff...

that's the big thing, zorn needs to integrate him some TE love into the playbook.

[Redskin Warrior]

Ok........ it's like this I hope I DON'T OFFEND ANYBODY WITH THIS POST

I think JC is unsure and holds the ball longer because he has a slave mentality before you go postal and everything let me explain.

Joe Gibbs played soft and didn't take many chances was a strong believer in the power run game didn't take the handcuffs off JC or the offense as a whole IMO. Now true enough JC has had plenty of coordinators no doubt and that played a vital part in his success. But he was still under Gibbs for three years the safe, conservative play mentality was still there even though the coordinator changed. Now you have a totally different coach, different mentality, more of a killer instinct then Gibbs in Zorn. Taking the cuffs off JC and do away with the conservative play. Zorn wants JC to trust his arm and his receivers well those three years under Gibbs plays a big factor. You can't expect JC within 6 or 7 months to get out of that mindset it takes time and Zorn know that. If you notice he didn't turnover the ball over and he is unsure about things. I rather have a conservative don't want to make a mistake QB then a Rex Grossman reckless throw 3 ints two for tds in one game QB. Time will tell but we have to be patient.