JLC vs. Cerrato takes a new twist?

[J. Spanky]

wow. what a beyatch. i'll be checking insider for his rebuttal. but if that's true, i'm not reading insider anymore. i don't respect that.

[FRPLG]

I've looked around and at extremeskins they are basically saying JLC called up the NFL to see if we'd be charged with tampering for the conversation that Shefter and VC had about Kiffin last week ON FREAKING AIR! Like talking about a situation like that is tampering. How the f*ck is that even remotely tampering? Why would that dumbass think of tyhat question? What the hell is wrong with JLC? He needs to to bve moved to another beat. I love the work he has done in the past but he has become clearly not objective. Is he like 5 years old? Trying to be a tattletale?

[redsk1]

Do you guys actually believe everything VC sais is true? Let's wait for a little more to come out of this. You never know but i'd think that JLC wouldn't do something like that w/ out some serious proof behind the accusations.

As we've learned just b/c VC sais something, don't neccessarily believe it's true.

There may indeed be an axe to grind w/ JLC. Before we find JLC guilty I think it's best to get some more info.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by redsk1

Do you guys actually believe everything VC sais is true? Let's wait for a little more to come out of this. You never know but i'd think that JLC wouldn't do something like that w/ out some serious proof behind the accusations.

As we've learned just b/c VC sais something, don't neccessarily believe it's true.

There may indeed be an axe to grind w/ JLC. Before we find JLC guilty I think it's best to get some more info.

This could indeed all be BS, but it wouldn't surprise me if it turns out to be true. Have you read JLC's blog? He doesn't just take swipes at the FO moves (which is fair), he seems to take swipes at the FO as individuals (which is a little unprofessional, even for a blog).

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

This could indeed all be BS, but it wouldn't surprise me if it turns out to be true. Have you read JLC's blog? He doesn't just take swipes at the FO moves (which is fair), he seems to take swipes at the FO as individuals (which is a little unprofessional, even for a blog).

I read it all of the time. Our "GM" the last 7-8 years has been one person, Vinny Cerrato. Our owner is one person, Daniel Snyder. I've criticized JLC before for being a little negative. So, I'll call him out when neccessary, but for the most part he does a good job. It's hard when criticizing the FO not to criticize the person who runs it, VC.

Let's get some more information about this before we judge. I'm not going to just believe something VC sais, b/c I'm sure there's another side to this.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by redsk1

It's hard when criticizing the FO not to criticize the person who runs it, VC.

What I meant was that JLC takes petty swipes at VC and DS as people, not as GM and owner of the Redskins. Would you agree that JLC seems to really, really personally dislike VC and DS and he lets those feelings show in his blog?

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

What I meant was that JLC takes petty swipes at VC and DS as people, not as GM and owner of the Redskins. Would you agree that JLC seems to really, really personally dislike VC and DS and he lets those feelings show in his blog?

I would agree. He does issue praise from time to time as well.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by redsk1

I read it all of the time. Our "GM" the last 7-8 years has been one person, Vinny Cerrato. Our owner is one person, Daniel Snyder. I've criticized JLC before for being a little negative. So, I'll call him out when neccessary, but for the most part he does a good job. It's hard when criticizing the FO not to criticize the person who runs it, VC.

Let's get some more information about this before we judge. I'm not going to just believe something VC sais, b/c I'm sure there's another side to this.

Cerrato has NOT been our GM the last few years or ever. At no time did he have duties that could even be construed as GM duties. He directed our personel scouting both collegiate and pro. That's it. He didn't make deals, sign players, makes trades. Those moves were done by Joe Gibbs as president of football operations. This year is Vinny's first at calling the shots.

[4thGenRedskin21]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Cerrato has NOT been our GM the last few years or ever. At no time did he have duties that could even be construed as GM duties. He directed our personel scouting both collegiate and pro. That's it. He didn't make deals, sign players, makes trades. Those moves were done by Joe Gibbs as president of football operations. This year is Vinny's first at calling the shots.

Very true, but VC was always taken the brunt end of everything negative that happend with the redskins, when in turn, that was not his fault. Vinny has done a great job this year so far, and I think he has handled things great. I used to have a diff opinion about him until I actually started seeing all the good he does for this team and he actually cares, and he has done some reallll good things.; He did wonders for the 49ers back in the day. Vinny C is good for our organization, especially now that him and DS are growing and not just tossing money around at old,worn out vets. theres nothing wrong with spending big, just make sure you dont get worn out players who wont be able to play more than 1-2 years ( J. TAylor is different)

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Cerrato has NOT been our GM the last few years or ever. At no time did he have duties that could even be construed as GM duties. He directed our personel scouting both collegiate and pro. That's it. He didn't make deals, sign players, makes trades. Those moves were done by Joe Gibbs as president of football operations. This year is Vinny's first at calling the shots.

Official job names aside, VC has been here for 7-8 yrs has worked as Dan's #1 the whole time, and yes, i guess JG's was indeed President of Football Operations. VC has been an intrigal part of free agency, drafting, and how this football team operates. He was the main reason we signed Brandon LLoyd, he admitted as much. Not trying to nitpick but VC, names aside, has played a huge role in this teams overall FO dealings.

But, yes, technically this is VC's first year calling the shots.

[Paintrain]

I forgot to mention in the original post that it was an on air interview that the conversation took place. It was NOWHERE close to tampering, he just offered a question and opinion.

[Redskins_P]

JLC needs to go. Make him cover DC United or the Capitals. I think Barry Svrluga (sp) would be a huge upgrade as a beat writer. He did a great job when he covered the Nats.

I think JLC definitely has an axe to grind with our FO. He needs to get over it and just do his job. What douche....

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by Redskins_P

JLC needs to go. Make him cover DC United or the Capitals. I think Barry Svrluga (sp) would be a huge upgrade as a beat writer. He did a great job when he covered the Nats.

I think JLC definitely has an axe to grind with our FO. He needs to get over it and just do his job. What douche....

Amen Brother. JLC has worn out his welcome on this beat. It's almost as if his highest aspiration is to personally knock Vinny down a peg. The guy needs to just shut the hell up, and do his job.

[Monkeydad]

TAMPERING? How? We're not trying to hire Kiffin and we don't benefit in any way whether he stays or goes.

It's nothing like when Minnesota was talking to Favre...they were actually trying to get him on their team.

[4thGenRedskin21]

im pretty lost, I dont understand how this is tampering. Were we trying to get kiffinf to come to the redskins or something? if so, i could understand that charge, but if not, It makes no sense??? Are the redskins FO not allowed to talk to shefter about current events around the league?? if someone doesnt do something about all this bullshit now, the NFL will lose alot of fans, because people dont want to put up with this shit. WE just want to watch football