There's No Quarterback Controversy

[MTK]

I thought he broke things down pretty well here:

There are numerous reasons why the offense isn't scoring, most of which we have covered. There are only a few receivers who can really be trusted to run the right route, make the catch, and not put the team in peril (Santana Moss, Antwaan Randle El and Chris Cooley). There were too many times when receivers failed to get open, Zorn said, and some crushing drops by James Thrash, Malcolm Kelly and Randle El. And I'll add that opposing teams have figured out that if you double Moss on first down and double Cooley on third down, no one else is really going to beat you.

The pass protection is often spotty and, especially when Campbell tries to survey the field and make multiple reads on deep patterns, he usually ends up running for his life before he can even look to the secondary targets (that's killing the vertical presence). And then, when Clinton Portis is really banged up and the Redskins fall behind by even a few scores early and have to chase the game, everything gets magnified because they lose the play-action threat, Campbell gets crushed because he has to drop back too much and the offense implodes.

I asked Zorn about having few receivers to trust, pass-protection breakdowns, drops, having to get too one-dimensional when falling behind, and the cumulative impact that has on anyone's ability to be an effective quarterback. "All of those things are very true," Zorn said.

[charlielyons]

Let me clarify something too.. I think JC could be a fine QB on another team or in another system. This offense just doesnt suit him. He has a slow release and doesnt read the defense quick enough. WCO has alot of minimal protection schemes so the running backs and fullbacks can catch passes.

[djnemo65]

Zorn has it right. Campbell has played average. He has not played bad. Other aspects of the team have been bad but not Campbell. I am surprised that this is even being discussed, although I shouldn't be.

And I'm not buying Campbell needs to adjust either. Earlier in the year when the entire offense was executing Campbell was being discussed as an MVP candidate. The problem is not the system, it's execution of that system. That is not a problem that can be blamed on Campbell. Not one bit. Charlie, what do all the guys you mentioned have in common? They are not having to win by themselves. Moreover,we have seen how average the aforementioned players can look when their teams get beat in other phases. To look at a few guys having success in their first year - admirably - and then somehow jump to Campbell needs to win games for us in spite of myriad breakdowns in other areas is crazy. Why don't you ask former Probowlers Matt Hasselbeck, Mark Bulger, or Carson Palmer about winning in spite of their teams' lines and receivers?

[charlielyons]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

Zorn has it right. Campbell has played average. He has not played bad. Other aspects of the team have been bad but not Campbell. I am surprised that this is even being discussed, although I shouldn't be.

And I'm not buying Campbell needs to adjust either. Earlier in the year when the entire offense was executing Campbell was being discussed as an MVP candidate. The problem is not the system, it's execution of that system. That is not a problem that can be blamed on Campbell. Not one bit. Charlie, what do all the guys you mentioned have in common? They are not having to win by themselves. Moreover,we have seen how average the aforementioned players can look when their teams get beat in other phases. To look at a few guys having success in their first year - admirably - and then somehow jump to Campbell needs to win games for us in spite of myriad breakdowns in other areas is crazy. Why don't you ask former Probowlers Matt Hasselbeck, Mark Bulger, or Carson Palmer about winning in spite of their teams' lines and receivers?

he has the tools around him. Im not saying Brennan is the answer, but the season is almost a wash, hes worth a look

[JLW428]

Originally Posted by charlielyons

he has the tools around him. Im not saying Brennan is the answer, but the season is almost a wash, hes worth a look

I really don't think the season is almost a wash. At 7-5? Come on man...

[charlielyons]

Originally Posted by JLW428

I really don't think the season is almost a wash. At 7-5? Come on man...

only 2 teams are getting in from our divison...another loss of 2 and we are done. i would just like to see what Colt Brennan, Rob Jackson,Kelly,Devin Thomas and Fred Davis in place of yoder can do......Horton shocked us all,its worth a look.

[A10sROCK]

I'm hard on Jason but believe he deserves the ENTIRE rest of this season as our starting QB.

He also gets at least half of next season as the starter.

HOWEVER, we need to pick up a veteran WCO QB this off-season. Collins must go. There should be a healthy QB competition in the PS.

JC is a good QB, but he's got to move higher in the next year. Of course, some other offensive players have a lot more issues [like dropped passes, pass blocking, etc] to resolve if this team is going to score more points.

By this time next year we must know whether Jason is our future long-term franchise QB. He's got to prove he's not the one. The QB is simply the most important position on the team. An elite QB can take you to the playoffs at least a few times in a five year period.

Colt may get his chance but this is Jason's time to rise up or not.

[JLW428]

We can still lose one more game and be fine. At 10-6 we can win the NFC wildcard, with a few stars aligned right. Just look at last season.

[charlielyons]

Originally Posted by JLW428

We can still lose one more game and be fine. At 10-6 we can win the NFC wildcard, with a few stars aligned right. Just look at last season.

thats what im hoping for....but if not i hope zorn would take a look at our young guys to see what we have to prepare for the offseason.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by JLW428

We can still lose one more game and be fine. At 10-6 we can win the NFC wildcard, with a few stars aligned right. Just look at last season.

Last season we barely made the playoffs and lost in the first round. So yes, it would be JUST like last season.

[EternalEnigma21]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Last season we barely made the playoffs and lost in the first round. So yes, it would be JUST like last season.

after losing a head coach and 2 "associate" head coaches, and giving the job to a guy who had never been a coordinator, I'd still call that a step in the right direction. Especially with implementing a new offensive system.

[djnemo65]

Charlie, give me a break. You seriously want the coach to quit on the season before we are even eliminated from the playoffs?

[JLW428]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

Charlie, give me a break. You seriously want the coach to quit on the season before we are even eliminated from the playoffs?

I'm with you.

[charlielyons]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

Charlie, give me a break. You seriously want the coach to quit on the season before we are even eliminated from the playoffs?

thats not what i said....after another loss or two

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by charlielyons

thats not what i said....after another loss or two

While we are at it, why don't we rest ALL of our starters? That's not how football teams are run. If fans ran the Redskins, they'd run it straight into the ground.