Champ the best. Champ one of the best.

offiss · 09-13-2004, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jamf

saden is missing patrick surtain on the list.

the one thing that pissed me off while watching the denver game was the comparisons between portis and griffin.

portis played against one of the better defences in the league. griffin played against one of the worst. i want to see griffin play a good team that has a good Dline and linebackers.

Portis ran for an unbeilievable amount of yard's last year, against that same KC team, they are very kind to RB's.

hurrykaine · 09-13-2004, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by offiss

Portis ran for an unbeilievable amount of yard's last year, against that same KC team, they are very kind to RB's.

I don't doubt Griffin will have a monster year behind that offensive line. He's as shifty and makes unbelievable cuts, but I think Portis is better cuz:

1. He's faster
2. He's a better blocker and blitz picker-upper
3. Has an infectiously positive locker room + sideline presence (QG may develop this in time too, but hasn't yet).

offiss · 09-13-2004, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by hurrykaine

I don't doubt Griffin will have a monster year behind that offensive line. He's as shifty and makes unbelievable cuts, but I think Portis is better cuz:

1. He's faster
2. He's a better blocker and blitz picker-upper
3. Has an infectiously positive locker room + sideline presence (QG may develop this in time too, but hasn't yet).

I defiently think Portis is much better, but that's the beauty of the denver line, it can make a back look better than he is, or at least he would be in a more conventional scheme, but we do have to keep in mind as other's have pointed out, it was KC they were playing. I just think in light of everything, kc's line is taylor made for that denver blocking phylosphy.

For a moment there last night I started to think that our old pal George Edward's was back coaching KC, how many times can you be fooled on a roleout, before you stop chasing the backside of a play, and go upfield to contain the QB? I swear KC's right end was like a labortory test rat, doing the same thing over, and over, and over again, unbelievable.

EEich · 09-13-2004, 04:52 PM

His name doesn't hurt when it comes to the overall marketing of Champ as a CB.
If his name was Herbert, I think he'd be considered "one of the best".
Sorry, no offense to guys named Herbert.

monk81 · 09-14-2004, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by rickmmrr

Has anyone else noticed this besides me. When Champ was a Redskin he was called one of the best CBs in the league.
Now that he's a Bronco he is called the best CB in the league. Way is he now the best just because he has a new address.

Don't get me wrong I think he's very good. Although last year was not a banner year for him.

Anyway just wondered if anyone noticed this.

Yes, Anti-Redskins bias.....but the Redskins have gotten a lot of POSITIVE press with Gibb's return........During Dallas week I'm sure the national media will drool all about Parcells...........It's funny the Cowboys don't even have a player to brag about so when they preview the Boyz game it's (opponent) meets Bill Parcells and the Cowboys.....

Yes, the Redskins have Gibbs but we have a lot of talent---Arrington, Portis, Coles, Burnell.......

That Guy · 09-15-2004, 05:33 AM

i believe performances need to be judged in context of their difficulty, and i don't consider KC's D nearly as good as TB's D... i'd still like to see them beat a good defense before i judge QG talent.

SUNRA · 09-15-2004, 11:56 AM

Fred Smoot has led in interceptions for the past three year. He had five INT's his first year and four INT's each for his second and third season. As quite as it is kept, Smoot's performance was definitley apart of Champ's move to Denver. Now we have 3 very good CB's who will make a name for themselves this year with the best defense in the NFL for the first week. Man, what difference a Gibbs makes!

That Guy · 09-15-2004, 02:03 PM

lol

BIGREDSKINFAN63 · 09-15-2004, 05:29 PM

who cares about chump,i mean champ?he's gone.i could care less about him,if he's all world great,if he breaks his leg,big deal.he did not want to be a redskin any longer so
piss on him,we got portis.i'm happy.sorry guys,it's all redskins or nothing.been that way 34 years and i ai'nt changing in my old age.

09-15-2004, 05:29 PM	#9
BIGREDSKINFAN63 Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: bassett-va Age: 62 Posts: 289	who cares about chump,i mean champ?he's gone.i could care less about him,if he's all world great,if he breaks his leg,big deal.he did not want to be a redskin any longer so piss on him,we got portis.i'm happy.sorry guys,it's all redskins or nothing.been that way 34 years and i ai'nt changing in my old age. __________________ "7 days without the redskins, makes one weak!!!"

09-13-2004, 04:52 PM	#4
EEich The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bristol, CT Age: 61 Posts: 1,001	His name doesn't hurt when it comes to the overall marketing of Champ as a CB. If his name was Herbert, I think he'd be considered "one of the best". Sorry, no offense to guys named Herbert.

09-15-2004, 05:33 AM	#6
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,620	i believe performances need to be judged in context of their difficulty, and i don't consider KC's D nearly as good as TB's D... i'd still like to see them beat a good defense before i judge QG talent.

09-15-2004, 11:56 AM	#7
SUNRA The Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,680	Fred Smoot has led in interceptions for the past three year. He had five INT's his first year and four INT's each for his second and third season. As quite as it is kept, Smoot's performance was definitley apart of Champ's move to Denver. Now we have 3 very good CB's who will make a name for themselves this year with the best defense in the NFL for the first week. Man, what difference a Gibbs makes!

09-15-2004, 02:03 PM	#8
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,620	lol

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