RUMOR: Bruce Allen to Redskins?

[celts32]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Anyone?

No, I wouldn't seek out change just for the sake of change. If we bring someone in let's bring in someone with a proven background. Not some schlub who we'll end up replacing in a few years. That makes no sense to me at all.

If said schlub does not get the job done then that's fine with me. I am in favor of a Redskins GM being hired or fired based on his production and nothing more. I honestly do not think we have that now. Hopefully, in the future Snyder will stick to a professional relationship only with his front office employees.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

That's basically my point. Who's to say this guy would be any better?? He's only been a GM in the NFL since 2004.

Yeah, pro or con he is a Buccaneer castoff. So they must of rid themselves of him for some reason. I would like to know more about him though before I start wholesale endorsing.


I do like the fact that he isn't yet neutered by Danny. He still has his balls until he signs a contract. If somehow he can keep his balls away from Snyder he'll be a good hire.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

Yeah, pro or con he is a Buccaneer castoff. So they must of rid themselves of him for some reason. I would like to know more about him though before I start wholesale endorsing.


I do like the fact that he isn't yet neutered by Danny. He still has his balls until he signs a contract. If somehow he can keep his balls away from Snyder he'll be a good hire.

In all likelyhood, he was fired because he didnt want to fire Gruden. It could be a matter of loyalty - Gruden lobbied for Allen to be brought in to Tampa Bay. Allen may have fought too hard to keep Gruden as the HC and because he didnt want to fire Gruden and the owner did, they were both gone. Thats pure speculation though.

The main attraction of Allen over Cerrato is:

1) He doesnt trade away draft picks.
2) He's not Dannys personal whipping boy
3) The fact that he's not Cerrato gives us leverage in hiring a HC to replace Zorn at some point - its been reported that Cerrato isnt well liked and its been implied that the reason Spags didnt take the job here last year was not wanting to work with Cerrato.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

In all likelyhood, he was fired because he didnt want to fire Gruden. It could be a matter of loyalty - Gruden lobbied for Allen to be brought in to Tampa Bay. Allen may have fought too hard to keep Gruden as the HC and because he didnt want to fire Gruden and the owner did, they were both gone. Thats pure speculation though.

The main attraction of Allen over Cerrato is:

1) He doesnt trade away draft picks.
2) He's not Dannys personal whipping boy
3) The fact that he's not Cerrato gives us leverage in hiring a HC to replace Zorn at some point - its been reported that Cerrato isnt well liked and its been implied that the reason Spags didnt take the job here last year was not wanting to work with Cerrato.

You can't wait to get Zorn outta here huh

[MiraclesHappen07]

no clue what his resume is like, but this could be interesting. Defiently would like to have him, but then whats up with cerrato? i doubt danny boy is gona give up his favorite person

[BigHairedAristocrat]

I havent spent alot of time looking at this, but here is his draft history, from nfl.com:
NFL Draft History: Full Draft - by Team

2008
1 20 Aqib Talib CB Kansas
2 58 Dexter Jackson WR Appalachian State
3 83 Jeremy Zuttah G Rutgers
4 115 Dre Moore DT Maryland
5 160 Josh Johnson QB San Diego
6 175 Geno Hayes OLB Florida State
7 238 Cory Boyd RB South Carolina

2007
1 4 Gaines Adams DE Clemson
2 35 Arron Sears G Tennessee
2 64 Sabby Piscitelli SAF Oregon State
3 68 Quincy Black LB New Mexico
4 106 Tanard Jackson FS Syracuse
5 141 Greg Peterson DT North Carolina Central
6 182 Adam Hayward LB Portland State
7 214 Chris Denman T Fresno State
7 245 Marcus Hamilton CB Virginia
7 246 Kenneth Darby RB Alabama

2006
1 23 Davin Joseph G Oklahoma
2 59 Jeremy Trueblood T Boston College
3 90 Maurice Stovall WR Notre Dame
4 122 Alan Zemaitis CB Penn State
5 156 Julian Jenkins DE Stanford
6 194 Bruce Gradkowski QB Toledo
6 202 T.J. Williams TE North Carolina State
7 235 Justin Phinisee CB Oregon
7 241 Charles Bennett DE Clemson
7 244 Tim Massaquoi TE Michigan

2005
1 5 Cadillac Williams RB Auburn
2 36 Barrett Ruud LB Nebraska
3 71 Alex Smith TE Stanford
3 91 Chris Colmer T North Carolina State
4 107 Dan Buenning G Wisconsin
5 141 Donte Nicholson DB Oklahoma
5 155 Larry Brackins -- Pearl River CC MS
6 178 Anthony Bryant DT Alabama
7 221 Rick Razzano RB Mississippi
7 225 Paris Warren WR Utah
7 231 Hamza Abdullah DB Washington State
7 253 J.R. Russell WR Louisville

20041 15 Michael Clayton WR Louisiana State
3 79 Marquis Cooper LB Washington
4 111 Will Allen SAF Ohio State
5 146 Jeb Terry G North Carolina
6 181 Nate Lawrie TE Yale
7 206 Mark Jones WR Tennessee
7 228 Casey Cramer RB Dartmouth
7 252 Lenny Williams CB Southern University

I'm not too familiar with alot of these players, but one thing that jumps out at me is that he doesnt trade draft picks. (Tampa Bay did not have their 2004 1st and 2nd rounders because the team had previously traded picks to Oakland to acquire Gruden.)

[Soup's Uncle]

Please Please Please....

[44ever]

why would we want him?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by 44ever

why would we want him?

That's what I'm trying to figure out. His drafts in TB were pretty unremarkable. If the answer is because he's not Vinny, that's not really a great reason to me to go after him.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

That's what I'm trying to figure out. His drafts in TB were pretty unremarkable. If the answer is because he's not Vinny, that's not really a great reason to me to go after him.

Well, he WAS the only period of competency in Oakland between 1994 and present day. He's been tied to Gruden's hip since he's been in the business.

I think he's the model for finding talented veterans that no one else wants, but I wouldn't give him total control of my football team.

This rumor seems to make way too much sense to be true. I think it's fabricated.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

That's what I'm trying to figure out. His drafts in TB were pretty unremarkable. If the answer is because he's not Vinny, that's not really a great reason to me to go after him.

Bruce Allen is irrelivent really...I am excited at the possibility of there being a thought in Snyders head that maybe quite possibly my front office needs a new voice. If that thought is in his head then that alone is a victory and I couldn't care less if he actually hires Allen, because I will at least know the seed is planted.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by celts32

Bruce Allen is irrelivent really...I am excited at the possibility of there being a thought in Snyders head that maybe quite possibly my front office needs a new voice. If that thought is in his head then that alone is a victory and I couldn't care less if he actually hires Allen, because I will at least know the seed is planted.

I agree with that and......

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

That's what I'm trying to figure out. His drafts in TB were pretty unremarkable. If the answer is because he's not Vinny, that's not really a great reason to me to go after him.

I hear you on that

During their playoff years they drafted mid to late first round and that can often be a crapshoot as far as what you expect out of the player and what you might get... but you can't call him a draft genius either that's for sure

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

That's what I'm trying to figure out. His drafts in TB were pretty unremarkable. If the answer is because he's not Vinny, that's not really a great reason to me to go after him.

I agree I think the fundamental issue most fans have can be pinpointed back to Danny Boy not Vinny.

[RMSkins]

I highly doubt that he would be coming in to replace Cerrato. If anything I could see him come in as an assitant to Cerrato, but why would he want to do that?