NFL Rumor Central: Does Vick have a future in Frisco?

[dmek25]

the guy did his time. i think he deserves a second chance. but who ever gives him a shot is in for a P.R. nightmare

[JoeRedskin]

lI think what he did was reprehensible. Fine, he served his time. Does he hold the same values? Don't know. Don't know if he could ever convince me that such a complete disregard for fellow living beings and for the law can ever be changed.

You want to give him a second chance? Whatever, just not on my team and I will wish failure and humilation on any team that takes him.

[Daseal]

Dan Reeves himself on NFL radio said "Michael Vick is not an NFL Quarterback." I wouldn't think this happens.

[BrunellMVP?]

vick has raider all over him (so does plaxico)

[SBXVII]

^ true and if they can go into there and change their ways and be good citizens then good for them.

[44ever]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

^ true and if they can go into there and change their ways and be good citizens then good for them.

Fair enough.

[SBXVII]

44, I'm not sure what else Vick went to school for? Hopefully he did not go for basketweaving to simply be able to play ball but if he did then society is saying we are not going to allow you to utilize the only talent you have. and this happens to many "felons" when they have to fill out an aplication that asks if they were ever convicted of a felony. It used to be felons could go to construction work or some type of manual labor after being convicted and still make ends meet but even now I'm seeing more of them not getting hired simply due to that marr on their record.

The NFL is not the Gov. or church body. It's not the Pope mobile and should kick off anyone who has committed a sin. It's a sport. A game. Entertainment. No different then watching Lost or your lady friend/wife/girlfriend watching a soap opera, or watching a symphany play. Simple entertainment. I do agree they are role models but we as parents should be teaching our kids who they should look up to not blindly allowing our kids to pick truely sick individuals. I really don't want my child to think the only way to get into the media is to kill animals or shoot people. I don't want him to think the only way to make big money is to play football. I'd like to think he has picked a player due to his talent and Characteristics. Should that player let him down as Vick has done alot of our youth I would hope my kids would pick another person but still respect what talent Vick had or has.

Now if his only talent was to breed dogs then I would have issues with him going back to breeding dogs. Football has nothing to do with his side venture of breeding and fighting dogs. No different then Michael Jorden and his betting. He was still a great player and probably could still run circles around some in the league. What if Vick decided to hang up his cleats but wanted to get into coaching? What if he said he would like to start at the bottom and learn how to coach.

As for having to give money to charity.....yes he has paid his crime but what if the NFL commissioner said I'll reinstate you if you give a portion to charity and do infomertials. At this point he's given an option. Give and play or don't and don't play. but by doing so it allows Vick to come back and it makes the NFL look good as being animal friendly and also punishing Vick and forcing him to humble himself. The only concern the Commish will have is how will this make the NFL look. Can he bring back a huge talent and still make the NFL look good? If not then I bet the Commish says no way for reinstatement.

[rypper11]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

44, I'm not sure what else Vick went to school for? Hopefully he did not go for basketweaving to simply be able to play ball but if he did then society is saying we are not going to allow you to utilize the only talent you have. and this happens to many "felons" when they have to fill out an aplication that asks if they were ever convicted of a felony. It used to be felons could go to construction work or some type of manual labor after being convicted and still make ends meet but even now I'm seeing more of them not getting hired simply due to that marr on their record.

Bit of a side comment, but I own a small painting company and I can't hire anyone with felonies in the past ten years. If I do, my insurances (liability and workers comp) rise. So if I hired a felon then I'd have to pay everyone less because a higher percentage of salaries are going to pay insurance. You are either concerned about people stealing tools, equipment and customers property or injuring customers. I know that "he paid his time" and should be returned to society, but that's not the way most of society works. There are very few industries (entertainment being the obvious exception) where any recent criminal record doesn't hurt your employment. Even if you are hiring him to clean port a johns you don't want to see him on the news being pulled out of your company truck at his next arrest.

That being said, I just don't think he is a very good quarterback and it might have been the best thing to happen to the Falcons that he was sent to jail. However, if he can catch the ball, imagine him returning punts and kickoffs? You know, somewhere else.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by rypper11

Bit of a side comment, but I own a small painting company and I can't hire anyone with felonies in the past ten years. If I do, my insurances (liability and workers comp) rise. So if I hired a felon then I'd have to pay everyone less because a higher percentage of salaries are going to pay insurance. You are either concerned about people stealing tools, equipment and customers property or injuring customers. I know that "he paid his time" and should be returned to society, but that's not the way most of society works. There are very few industries (entertainment being the obvious exception) where any recent criminal record doesn't hurt your employment. Even if you are hiring him to clean port a johns you don't want to see him on the news being pulled out of your company truck at his next arrest.

That being said, I just don't think he is a very good quarterback and it might have been the best thing to happen to the Falcons that he was sent to jail. However, if he can catch the ball, imagine him returning punts and kickoffs? You know, somewhere else.

I sell Insurance and have never seen that question aboout felons on any applications but I'm in Va so Nc could be different.

[BrudLee]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I sell Insurance and have never seen that question aboout felons on any applications but I'm in Va so Nc could be different.

I would imagine that as a painter, he and his employees are bonded to be in people's homes. His bonding would likely cost more.

[MiraclesHappen07]

I for one, want to see vick back in the league. I know he had his problems, but hey its not like he killed a human being. Now i dont like that he helped in the dog fighting bussiness, i love dogs! but funny thing about all this is it got more publicity than as if he killed someone. So im willing to give him another chance, i wish him the best of luck and i hope he can become a better Qb.

[Larry Michael is Satan]

Not to minimize Vick's crime, but I generally agree with the following Chris Rock quote from election season:

"The crowd went crazy with applause when they showed a big picture of Sarah Palin next to the Moose she just killed, and Mike Vick is saying to himself, 'why am I in jail?'" -Chris Rock

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Larry Michael is Satan

Not to minimize Vick's crime, but I generally agree with the following Chris Rock quote from election season:

"The crowd went crazy with applause when they showed a big picture of Sarah Palin next to the Moose she just killed, and Mike Vick is saying to himself, 'why am I in jail?'" -Chris Rock

I think Chris Rock was truly joking. Although I'm sure the same people that demonize Vick were probably not happy about Palin either.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by Larry Michael is Satan

Not to minimize Vick's crime, but I generally agree with the following Chris Rock quote from election season:

"The crowd went crazy with applause when they showed a big picture of Sarah Palin next to the Moose she just killed, and Mike Vick is saying to himself, 'why am I in jail?'" -Chris Rock

Just curious was the moose beaten and then asked to fight others for sport and then electrocuted or strangled to death by Palin?

Just askin'...

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Just curious was the moose beaten and then asked to fight others for sport and then electrocuted or strangled to death by Palin?

Just askin'...

Dude, just drop the Chris Rock joke, the Palin-Vick comparison is not fair and not worth mentioning. Just because the same PETA people that demonized Vick would demonized Palin for her hunting, doesn't make it the same thing.