Willis picks Seahawks over SKINS

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by 44ever

I wonder if Snyder is thinking of pushing all the chips to the center and going after Suggs? Yes I know he's (F) But....

If they had gotten a good offensive lineman in free agency (not Willis or Brown) I would say maybe. Otherwise, we don't have enough ammo to go after Suggs, and I hope they don't give up any future picks (is there going to be a draft in 2010?).

[44ever]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

If they had gotten a good offensive lineman in free agency (not Willis or Brown) I would say maybe. Otherwise, we don't have enough ammo to go after Suggs, and I hope they don't give up any future picks (is there going to be a draft in 2010?).

If Suggs was in that 2010 draft would you draft him? I would. Why not draft him now. 2010 We can afford the best FA's in the league

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by 44ever

If Suggs was in that 2010 draft would you draft him? I would. Why not draft him now

I'm trying to find somewhere online some type of database on player fouls. Suggs is a helluva player, however I think he gets into foul trouble, I know I've seen him commit one too many personal fouls, especially roughing the passer. Other than that, I would probably take him, however could he play as a DE in the 4-3? He was a DE in college, but all he has played in the pros has been the 3-4 defense.

[44ever]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I'm trying to find somewhere online some type of database on player fouls. Suggs is a helluva player, however I think he gets into foul trouble, I know I've seen him commit one too many personal fouls, especially roughing the passer. Other than that, I would probably take him, however could he play as a DE in the 4-3? He was a DE in college, but all he has played in the pros has been the 3-4 defense.

Looks like we need one more season to put this team together SOLID.

[saden1]

Thank god, he is trash and we are fortunate to not have signed him.

[John Denny]

Who care's about Willis? What has he ever done to warrant a starting RT position. He's probably on par with Heyer and we'd have to pay him more.
As far as Suggs goes, is this even possible? Is this just talk from fans kicking the can around or what? If it is true and we could possibly get him (I'd really be amazed if we did but then again, I said that about Haynesworth too and then again when Hall resigned and yet again when we scooped Dockery) we could definately run some 3-4.
Haynesworth would be the undeniable force at NT with Griffin and Daniels (assuming he's resigned) playing the ends. Then we'd have Suggs and McIntosh playing OLB with Fletcher and Blades playing inside. Blades might be better suited as a special teamer but could produce at a high level given the amount of talent surrounding him.
And if we were really considering Suggs, I'd imagine we'd have to give up our 1st round pick if not more (high 2010 picks most likely). I'd rather draft Maualuga if he's available if we were to continue upgrading the defense and keep our future picks.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by John Denny

Who care's about Willis? What has he ever done to warrant a starting RT position. He's probably on par with Heyer and we'd have to pay him more.
As far as Suggs goes, is this even possible? Is this just talk from fans kicking the can around or what? If it is true and we could possibly get him (I'd really be amazed if we did but then again, I said that about Haynesworth too and then again when Hall resigned and yet again when we scooped Dockery) we could definately run some 3-4.
Haynesworth would be the undeniable force at NT with Griffin and Daniels (assuming he's resigned) playing the ends. Then we'd have Suggs and McIntosh playing OLB with Fletcher and Blades playing inside. Blades might be better suited as a special teamer but could produce at a high level given the amount of talent surrounding him.
And if we were really considering Suggs, I'd imagine we'd have to give up our 1st round pick if not more (high 2010 picks most likely). I'd rather draft Maualuga if he's available if we were to continue upgrading the defense and keep our future picks.

Suggs is just fan talk. We don't have anything to trade to anyone.

[44ever]

Originally Posted by John Denny

Who care's about Willis? What has he ever done to warrant a starting RT position. He's probably on par with Heyer and we'd have to pay him more.
As far as Suggs goes, is this even possible? Is this just talk from fans kicking the can around or what? If it is true and we could possibly get him (I'd really be amazed if we did but then again, I said that about Haynesworth too and then again when Hall resigned and yet again when we scooped Dockery) we could definately run some 3-4.
Haynesworth would be the undeniable force at NT with Griffin and Daniels (assuming he's resigned) playing the ends. Then we'd have Suggs and McIntosh playing OLB with Fletcher and Blades playing inside. Blades might be better suited as a special teamer but could produce at a high level given the amount of talent surrounding him.
And if we were really considering Suggs, I'd imagine we'd have to give up our 1st round pick if not more (high 2010 picks most likely). I'd rather draft Maualuga if he's available if we were to continue upgrading the defense and keep our future picks.

Suggs was just a joke. Kind of. I only said it to stir the pot of ideas a little. But with that said. I don't put anything past snyder. Nor do I doubt his ability to do the impossible anymore. I wouldn't mind Suggs at this point.

[53Fan]

Willis could'nt have been but so good to last this long. I doubt he's any better than Heyer.

[vallin21]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Willis could'nt have been but so good to last this long. I doubt he's any better than Heyer.

Exactly, It looked seemed like we might sign him, but to see him on the arket so long raised some questions. Sign Crowell, draft Smith or Oher, and find a DE in the 3rd.

[John Denny]

That's what I thought. Plus there's no way to pay him.

[wilsowilso]

I think it's become pretty clear that the Redsklins are drafting a right tackle with their first pick. If they don't like the value at #13 then they can trade back ten to fifteen spots and pick up a RT with a late first round grade and pick up another first day selection. That right tackle from Connecticut has a late first round grade. Or they can do the same thing and draft Alex Mack in the mid to late 20's. Either way they have no choice but to draft an offensive lineman. I think all this talk about taking a linebacker in the first seems more and more unlikely because the offensive line is a much bigger need. NFL linebackers grow on trees compared to quality offensive linemen.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by wilsowilso

Or they can do the same thing and draft Alex Mack in the mid to late 20's. Either way they have no choice but to draft an offensive lineman. I think all this talk about taking a linebacker in the first seems more and more unlikely because the offensive line is a much bigger need. NFL linebackers grow on trees compared to quality offensive linemen.

Southern California … The Bears gave the Trojans all they could handle before USC escaped with a 24-17 victory … Mack delivered two touchdown-resulting blocks among his seven knockdowns, keeping All-American nose guard Sedrick Ellis out of the backfield all game … Ellis was upended by the Cal center on a 17-yard scoring burst up the middle by tailback Justin Forsett in the first quarter … Late in the third stanza, he bounced off a block on Ellis to flatten linebacker Brian Cushing on a 20-yard touchdown pass from QB Nate Longshore to Lavell Hawkins … Head to Head Competition-NG#49-Sedrick Ellis (6:02-305)-Five tackles (2 solos) … Offensive Impact-Mack recorded seven knockdowns and two touchdown-resulting blocks, grading 87 percent … Helped the team gain 200 yards with one touchdown on 45 carries (4.44 ypc) and generate 399 total yards on 74 snaps (5.39 yards per play).

Alex Mack, California, NFL Draft - CBSSports.com Football

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Southern California … The Bears gave the Trojans all they could handle before USC escaped with a 24-17 victory … Mack delivered two touchdown-resulting blocks among his seven knockdowns, keeping All-American nose guard Sedrick Ellis out of the backfield all game … Ellis was upended by the Cal center on a 17-yard scoring burst up the middle by tailback Justin Forsett in the first quarter … Late in the third stanza, he bounced off a block on Ellis to flatten linebacker Brian Cushing on a 20-yard touchdown pass from QB Nate Longshore to Lavell Hawkins … Head to Head Competition-NG#49-Sedrick Ellis (6:02-305)-Five tackles (2 solos) … Offensive Impact-Mack recorded seven knockdowns and two touchdown-resulting blocks, grading 87 percent … Helped the team gain 200 yards with one touchdown on 45 carries (4.44 ypc) and generate 399 total yards on 74 snaps (5.39 yards per play).

Alex Mack, California, NFL Draft - CBSSports.com Football

Rabach is 31 and declining. A player like Mack does'nt come around very often. He would make this line so much better. He could easily anchor this line for 10 years. We're not gonna get Jason Smith. We're not gonna get Eugene Monroe and every other elite tackle has questions about him. He would improve our line better than guard Duke Robinson. If we're looking for a solid lineman who is going to help this team for a very long time and has no "issues". If we're looking for someone who will actually help us win ballgames for many, many years and not just a big name that sounds really cool that we got him.....Mack is the man. He is an outstanding football player and a hard worker. He has put Ellis and Cushing on their ass and there is no doubt in my mind that he will continue to be outstanding in the NFL. Even if we have to play Heyer at RT this year, we'd be crazy to pass on a player of this calber. We will not get another chance to get a center like this, how long do we wait to get Rabach's replacement? A year too late as usual? If the idea is to make every position on your team the best it can be.....you won't find better than Alex Mack. Not this year or next year or the year after. He is the best center prospect to come out of college in YEARS. If you really want to make your line elite, you take elite players. Mack is the man.

[cobracai1]

I think Smoot mentioned it but the Raiders didn't pick up Barnes. I honestly think that we should turn our attention to him as either depth or a potential starter on the right side in case one of the big 4 dont drop to us at 13. I'm starting to get worried we're going into the season with Jansen, Heyer, and Clark as our potential right tackles. That is scary to me