Reasons for drafting Sanchez

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Exactly. What's the net effect going to be of getting him, that's the big question

For me, it's not that we lose Campbell and maybe some draft picks, it's really the whole big picture. Gmanc and I were talking about it today and basically it's you have to be in one mode, rebuilding, a piece away or a dynasty. You can't be a combination of any of those.

Sure, we as fans are part of the problem since we're notoriously impatient, but seriously, sometimes we have to let management know that we're willing to wait and let the team be BUILT the right way.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

For me, it's not that we lose Campbell and maybe some draft picks, it's really the whole big picture. Gmanc and I were talking about it today and basically it's you have to be in one mode, rebuilding, a piece away or a dynasty. You can't be a combination of any of those.

Sure, we as fans are part of the problem since we're notoriously impatient, but seriously, sometimes we have to let management know that we're willing to wait and let the team be BUILT the right way.

Wow, hate to quote myself, but basically I just saw the thread about the same thing and I truly agree with everything said there.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I totally agree with the people saying it's because we jilted Campbell enough that even if he tears it up, it'll be another Boldin situation.

[Hog1]

Listening to endless hours of this stuff....but this might have some truth. "Sources" out at the park say they are disappointed in JC's ability to extend plays, "make things happen", but MOSTLY his lack of leadership. AND do not believe that will change...
They believe that ALL these things are strong in Sanchez

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Hog1

Listening to endless hours of this stuff....but this might have some truth. "Sources" out at the park say they are disappointed in JC's ability to extend plays, "make things happen", but MOSTLY his lack of leadership. AND do not believe that will change...
They believe that ALL these things are strong in Sanchez

Yup. It's like I've been telling you guys for several weeks now. The general feeling inisde Redskin Park "We all like Jason. He's a good guy and a solid QB that we can win with, but we're not sure we can win because of him. And when we have injuries, etc. like we did last season we need a QB who can carry us over those types of obstacles. We're not convinced Jason is that guy."

I can see that, certainly. I'm not totally convinced that Sanchez is that guy either though. But he definitely carries intangible qualities that Campbell seems to lack.

[Soup's Uncle]

That's one thing I don't trust though. For all we know, a "source" could be a dude who empties the trash and could email Jason La Confora (who sucks).

[Paintrain]

It's really cliche, but Sanchez has the 'look' of an NFL star QB. He's got the swagger, he's got the poise, he's polished, he went to the big time college program, played on the big stage, performed well under that pressure. Campbell, as big a fan of his as I am, always seems like the awkward kid picked by his group to speak in front of the class.

As for a pure football analysis, despite Sanchez's 'inexperience'-which I think is overblown-he's got excellent mechanics, balance and his decision making appears to be outstanding. He doesn't have the rocket but his arm is adequate to adequate-plus. He can make the necessary throws and isn't afraid to take chances when needed. I don't think he's going to have the same learning curve that a lot of rookie QB will have only because he's had experience in a pro-style offense before and if we get him, he's not coming to a terrible supporting cast around him.

I'm not supporting this move, but if we make it, get him signed and into Redskins Park immediately because our future is tied to him for at least the next 5 years. The one upside of this move is this would be a Snyder driven pick so he's going to get much more leeway than any of the previous QB we've drafted this decade.

[AuburnRedskin]

#1 Reason - We are no longer interested in competing for on-the-field championships...only offseason wins and championships

[Soup's Uncle]

Originally Posted by AuburnRedskin

#1 Reason - We are no longer interested in competing for on-the-field championships...only offseason wins and championships

Are your initials JC?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I think we've heard enough about why we shouldn't draft Sanchez, so now I want to hear some reasons why we should draft Sanchez. I'm not saying I'm in favor of it or behind the move, I just want to hear some logical and rational reasons for taking him and shipping JC out of here.

From the little I know about Sanchez he appears to be more of a true gunslinger and definitely a more vocal leader. It looks like he throws on the run pretty well, he doesn't have a cannon arm but he looks like he can certainly make all the throws, and he's played in a pro style offense at USC. Experts say he has sound mechanics and fundamentals and is very coachable. Plus he's very accurate and makes good decisions.

What are your thoughts?

I can't think of any reason to give up a draft pick or picks to draft him. Not one. Not for this team. Our Qb situation is solid. We've got a young guy, an older guy and JC going into his 5th year. I watched 5-6 USC games. Sanchez is a good system QB, but not a guy who can carry an offense. He doesn't have Jay Culter skills...that's for sure. He doesn't even have better physical skills than Campbell. He's just more of a vocal leader, impresses people in interviews and is getting a ton of hype from Trent Dilfer. Did Dilfer watch the Oregon State game????

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I can't think of any reason to give up a draft pick or picks to draft him. Not one. Not for this team. Our Qb situation is solid. We've got a young guy, an older guy and JC going into his 5th year. I watched 5-6 USC games. Sanchez is a good system QB, but not a guy who can carry an offense. He doesn't have Jay Culter skills...that's for sure. He doesn't even have better physical skills than Campbell. He's just more of a vocal leader, impresses people in interviews and is getting a ton of hype from Trent Dilfer. Did Dilfer watch the Oregon State game????

Not to defend Sanchez, but to call him a system QB is an endorsement to draft him since the system he was in is similar to our system so by your logic he will be effective.

Judging someone solely on their worst game is no more responsible than judging them solely on their best game.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Not to defend Sanchez, but to call him a system QB is an endorsement to draft him since the system he was in is similar to our system so by your logic he will be effective.

Judging someone solely on their worst game is no more responsible than judging them solely on their best game.

Yes I am judging him on that game... and a few others. If what Smoot is saying is true, which is they want a guy who can carry us when we have injuries and so forth, then why in the world are we looking at this guy? I didn't see any USC games where Sanchez faced adversity and had to bring his team from behind. And the few games he did face adversity he played like sub par. I mean if he's so great why didn't he beat out Booty? Booty, Leinart and Sanchez are all the same guy to me. Very good college players but they'll never be great pro's, just good ones. Not one of those guys have Carson Palmer ability so I see no reason to make a trade.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Yes I am judging him on that game... and a few others. If what Smoot is saying is true, which is they want a guy who can carry us when we have injuries and so forth, then why in the world are we looking at this guy? I didn't see any USC games where Sanchez faced adversity and had to bring his team from behind. And the few games he did face adversity he played like sub par. I mean if he's so great why didn't he beat out Booty? Booty, Leinart and Sanchez are all the same guy to me. Very good college players but they'll never be great pro's, just good ones. Not one of those guys have Carson Palmer ability so I see no reason to make a trade.

Many said he should've played instead of Booty but who knows. I don't have a clue whether he'll be worth a damn in the league or not; I'm not in love with him, but if we get him oh well. He seems like he could be an average QB if things don't work out, kinda like what we have.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Yes I am judging him on that game... and a few others. If what Smoot is saying is true, which is they want a guy who can carry us when we have injuries and so forth, then why in the world are we looking at this guy? I didn't see any USC games where Sanchez faced adversity and had to bring his team from behind. And the few games he did face adversity he played like sub par. I mean if he's so great why didn't he beat out Booty? Booty, Leinart and Sanchez are all the same guy to me. Very good college players but they'll never be great pro's, just good ones. Not one of those guys have Carson Palmer ability so I see no reason to make a trade.

Ok, fair enough. Here's JC's bad games to compare fairly;

WAS 7 @ NYG 16
STL 19 @ WAS 17
PIT 23 @ WAS 6
DAL 14 @ WAS 10
NYG 23 @ WAS 7
WAS 10 @ BAL 24
WAS 13 @ CIN 20
WAS 24 @ SF 27

All these games were losses. Now what your going to say is JC looked awsome even though the team lost? I can tell you I was unimpressed with most of those games especially the STL game and the SF game. I know we put up 24 points in the SF game but the game was ugly.

A game we won that I was not impressed with was the Detroit game. We should have smoked them and only squeeked by. I guess due to jet lag.

Does this mean Sanchez is the answer no. Does this mean he will be an excellent NFL QB? no. but he does have abilities JC apparently does not. I read somewhere that they felt Sanchez would most likely not start in the pros cause of his 16 games only but will eventually become a Tom Brady.

Which is why as owner I would pull JC aside and tell him to shut up. He's our QB next yr. The team is only looking out for itself for after next yr and if he plays well then he will get resigned and be the starter. If he blows and screws up then either he's let go or Sanchez can try.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I can't think of any reason to give up a draft pick or picks to draft him. Not one. Not for this team. Our Qb situation is solid. We've got a young guy, an older guy and JC going into his 5th year. I watched 5-6 USC games. Sanchez is a good system QB, but not a guy who can carry an offense. He doesn't have Jay Culter skills...that's for sure. He doesn't even have better physical skills than Campbell. He's just more of a vocal leader, impresses people in interviews and is getting a ton of hype from Trent Dilfer. Did Dilfer watch the Oregon State game????

everybody is talking about a single game

I know that you only have one full season to work with but damn

all qb's have shitty days