Rank Orakpo as a OLB prospect...

diehard · 05-25-2009, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Not sure why some are already so convinced he can't handle OLB. I'd at least like to see him in live action before I make up my mind.

It's obvious that he has the atlehticism to play multiple posisitions but, there has to be a reason he's has zero experience playing LB. He's only played DE since HS. It seems like the FO was trying to get a two-for-one player and how realistic is that? As I look back at the LB and DE prospects in the draft, it seems that Clay Matthews (played DE), Sintim, possibly Everette Brown (have you seen his spin move?) and Aaron Maybin (already gone), would've been better suited to the plans the coaches and FO had in mind. I just hope Orakpo doesn't get hurt trying out for SLB.

John Denny · 05-11-2009, 10:01 AM

Mario Williams (who's a great pass-rusher now) really struggled at DE when he entered the league so why not just let Orakpo concentrate on what he knows best before having him play a couple positions. Why overload him?

05-11-2009, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by John Denny

Mario Williams (who's a great pass-rusher now) really struggled at DE when he entered the league so why not just let Orakpo concentrate on what he knows best before having him play a couple positions. Why overload him?

That was the problem with signing Daniels and Wynn. Now with Orakpo on board its going to be hard for him to crack the DL on 1st and 2nd downs. I think the experience of Orakpo at DE on every down is key to him being ready to make more plays sooner. The problem is the team wants to win so bad I think they are looking to fill a void at OLB instead of setting up Orakpo for years to come. We might make the playoffs this year but we arent a Super Bowl contender imo at this time.

Id play Orakpo at DE and let him make his share of rookie mistakes and big plays. I agree with you 100%. Why teach him the OLB spot if we know hes going to play DE for us in the future? It really scares me that the Redskins finally drafted a beast DE and they want to toy with him at OLB.

CRedskinsRule · 05-11-2009, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by John Denny

Mario Williams (who's a great pass-rusher now) really struggled at DE when he entered the league so why not just let Orakpo concentrate on what he knows best before having him play a couple positions. Why overload him?

I agree with you, to a degree. The one difference is that Mario was designed to be the anchor of a nonexistent line Orakpo is coming in with what should be excellent interior support, and two DEs, Carter and Daniels, to show him the ropes.

05-11-2009, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by diehard

Yes Rak-attack was the highest rated DE prospect entering the draft but, is Orakpo a better OLB prospect than Curry?

I dont think so. Curry is a true LB who can play any LB spot in a 4-3 or 3-4. As a OLB Curry has all the tools to be a very good player in the NFL. Alot of teams questioned Orakpo before the draft about his ability to play the pass. I think Orakpo can fill a void at OLB for us but I think part of the reason he slipped was because teams didnt think he could play LB.

Orakpo has the power and burst off the edge to be a HOF Defensive End imo. I know he hasnt played a down yet in the NFL but he has the potenial to be great. I dont think he can be compared to a LB like Curry though.

John Denny · 05-11-2009, 10:28 AM

Plus if he's playing OLB on 1st and 2nd down, don't you think teams will try to take advantage of him in coverage. We won't have a great pass rush with Daniels in his place so the odds are against us.
WE'VE NEEDED A DE FOR A LONG TIME. LET'S LEAVE HIM THERE.

skinsnut · 05-25-2009, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by John Denny

Plus if he's playing OLB on 1st and 2nd down, don't you think teams will try to take advantage of him in coverage.

Exactly

John Denny · 05-11-2009, 10:36 AM

Wynn and Daniels are NOT starters anymore. Sure they can show Orakpo the ropes but nothing can replace his talent. And why not put Orakpo in a position to make a play at the point of attack instead of running him down field?
Resign MW or someone else that plays the position and is comfortable playing there. A good example is when teams try to take college QB's and make them WR's. Why would they be better than a guy who's played the position his whole life? They're all athletes so let them stick to what know and have developed throughout their careers.

skinsnut · 05-25-2009, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by John Denny

Wynn and Daniels are NOT starters anymore.

I may be in the minority here...but I am holding out hope that Daniels is a starter on DE.

I see Orakpo playing 3rd and long for him and occasionally giving a break to Carter.

I really dont see Orakpo as starting at LB anyways...I really think they are just trying to develop him as an emergency backup....why?
So they can see if they can cut folks like Chris Wilson if need be.

DBUCHANON101 · 05-12-2009, 11:58 AM

i say keep him on the line. get a SLB when teams start makin their cuts or hope one of our guys we signed or drafted can step up.

DBUCHANON101 · 05-25-2009, 01:12 PM

Well they say the other DE's are looking good so i guess the SLB position is the bigger need and RAK has the talent to fill that void. But yes i would like to see us sign a SLB -waiver or FA during roster cuts-and put him back at DE.

GTripp0012 · 05-25-2009, 02:04 PM

It's not like putting him at LB will risk ruining him. At worst, it will hinder his development a bit. But getting him onto the field early might pay off in the long run as well.

05-25-2009, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

It's not like putting him at LB will risk ruining him. At worst, it will hinder his development a bit. But getting him onto the field early might pay off in the long run as well.

I agree getting him on the field early will pay off in the long run. I just think he should be doing it from the DE position where he will end up playing for us. I just dont like drafting a guy in the 1st round and playing him at a new position. It just doesnt make sense to me. I know we got Daniels and Wynn and putting Orakpo at OLB fills a hole. I just dont like the idea of taking a top-rated DE playing him at OLB and hurting his devlopment at the DE position in the NFL.

diehard · 05-25-2009, 04:02 PM

Daniels and Wynn are similiar players and that's seems to be a sign of which type of player coaches want at that position.

skinsnut · 05-25-2009, 07:23 PM

The FO may be wanting to field their best 11 players on the field...Orakpo is one of them...unfortunately Carter and Daniels are also in that group...the weak link is LB...
I agree with all of you who say...just sign Washington or someone else for LB.
I personally do not feel comfortable with Orapko at starting LB or Fincher or Wilson

To me, the only way Orapko starts at DE immediately is if Daniels gets in the DT rotation and gives the DE's an occasional break

05-11-2009, 10:01 AM	#2
John Denny Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Ocean Pines, MD Posts: 137	Re: Rank Orakpo as a OLB prospect... Mario Williams (who's a great pass-rusher now) really struggled at DE when he entered the league so why not just let Orakpo concentrate on what he knows best before having him play a couple positions. Why overload him?

05-11-2009, 10:28 AM	#6
John Denny Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Ocean Pines, MD Posts: 137	Re: Rank Orakpo as a OLB prospect... Plus if he's playing OLB on 1st and 2nd down, don't you think teams will try to take advantage of him in coverage. We won't have a great pass rush with Daniels in his place so the odds are against us. WE'VE NEEDED A DE FOR A LONG TIME. LET'S LEAVE HIM THERE. __________________ DIE-NASTY

05-11-2009, 10:36 AM	#8
John Denny Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Ocean Pines, MD Posts: 137	Re: Rank Orakpo as a OLB prospect... Wynn and Daniels are NOT starters anymore. Sure they can show Orakpo the ropes but nothing can replace his talent. And why not put Orakpo in a position to make a play at the point of attack instead of running him down field? Resign MW or someone else that plays the position and is comfortable playing there. A good example is when teams try to take college QB's and make them WR's. Why would they be better than a guy who's played the position his whole life? They're all athletes so let them stick to what know and have developed throughout their careers. __________________ DIE-NASTY

05-12-2009, 11:58 AM	#10
DBUCHANON101 The Starter Join Date: May 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,373	Re: Rank Orakpo as a OLB prospect... i say keep him on the line. get a SLB when teams start makin their cuts or hope one of our guys we signed or drafted can step up.

05-25-2009, 01:12 PM	#11
DBUCHANON101 The Starter Join Date: May 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,373	Re: Rank Orakpo as a OLB prospect... Well they say the other DE's are looking good so i guess the SLB position is the bigger need and RAK has the talent to fill that void. But yes i would like to see us sign a SLB -waiver or FA during roster cuts-and put him back at DE.

05-25-2009, 02:04 PM	#12
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 37 Posts: 15,994	Re: Rank Orakpo as a OLB prospect... It's not like putting him at LB will risk ruining him. At worst, it will hinder his development a bit. But getting him onto the field early might pay off in the long run as well. __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

05-25-2009, 04:02 PM	#14
diehard The Starter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Norfolk, Va (OV) Posts: 1,566	Re: Rank Orakpo as a OLB prospect... Daniels and Wynn are similiar players and that's seems to be a sign of which type of player coaches want at that position. Last edited by diehard; 05-25-2009 at 04:11 PM.

05-25-2009, 07:23 PM	#15
skinsnut Playmaker Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,975	Re: Rank Orakpo as a OLB prospect... The FO may be wanting to field their best 11 players on the field...Orakpo is one of them...unfortunately Carter and Daniels are also in that group...the weak link is LB... I agree with all of you who say...just sign Washington or someone else for LB. I personally do not feel comfortable with Orapko at starting LB or Fincher or Wilson To me, the only way Orapko starts at DE immediately is if Daniels gets in the DT rotation and gives the DE's an occasional break __________________ I hate Dallas...Period

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