"Jason Campbell struggles against the Steelers"

[roth74va]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I liked the deep pass play calls. They created a vertical aspect for the offense even though they were incomplete. We've been so conservative for so long, I think it is good to do things to keep safeties from cheating towards the line of scrimmage.

I agree I loved seeing them at least trying to throw deep. Campbell seriously missed a TD on the first one, the throw was way off. Kelly had the step on the defense, he just put it where they could still recover and make the play. I agree though keeping a few deep plays in the playcalling will loosen everything up closer to the line of scrimmage, even if they arent completed.

[redskins1974]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I liked the deep pass play calls. They created a vertical aspect for the offense even though they were incomplete. We've been so conservative for so long, I think it is good to do things to keep safeties from cheating towards the line of scrimmage.

how you can find anything positive out of the passing game is a little weird. i've been saying it for over 2 years now...JC is not a starting QB in the NFL. his performance was pathetic

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by redskins1974

how you can find anything positive out of the passing game is a little weird. i've been saying it for over 2 years now...JC is not a starting QB in the NFL. his performance was pathetic

So you jumped to a conclusion, essentially? That's what you're telling us?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by JWsleep

I don't know. I watched the game and didn't think Campbell was so bad. Some of his throws were deep, which had a positive effect even though they didn't hit them. He missed a few short ones--need to fix that. But as people have said, accuracy hasn't been his problem, it's reads. So I'm not worried that he's suddenly lost his accuracy.

Still, the only way JC gets love is if he wins games. Full stop. No point in trying to over-analyze, especially at this point.

On the plus side, the line looked very good, both on pass pro and run blocking, pretty much all night. Given that was the biggest worry going in, ya gotta feel a bit better about things.

very well said.

[SmootSmack]

I think if you read the article what Florio is trying to say is Campbell's season went downhill starting with his poor performance against the Steelers last November. And tonight he really wasn't that great again. But he also points out that Zorn was relatively happy with Campbell's decision making tonight and that it's way too early to talk about benching Campbell, but that he needs to play better if he wants to own that starting role through the regular season.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I think if you read the article what Florio is trying to say is Campbell's season went downhill starting with his poor performance against the Steelers last November. And tonight he really wasn't that great again. But he also points out that Zorn was relatively happy with Campbell's decision making tonight and that it's way too early to talk about benching Campbell, but that he needs to play better if he wants to own that starting role through the regular season.

Zorn's not going to give JC even the slightest amount of criticism, because

A) Campbell is fragile, especially after the off-season he had and

B) If the team struggles this year, Zorn is gone.

[Dirtbag59]

So lets take odds on when Chase Daniel becomes our Matt Ryan. I say 2:1 week 3.

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

So lets take odds on when Chase Daniel becomes our Matt Ryan. I say 2:1 week 3.

some where SS is smiling

[skinsfaninok]

Well I said all offseason that we should have got cutler but I'm not giving up until it happens in the reg season... atleast Daniel looked sharp

[insideman]

How many more excuses can Zorn and Campbell come with for their poor performances on the field. Why can't Zorn just tell everyone like it is. Zorn, should say "I can't call plays" and Campbell should say "I can't quarter back". I'm starting to feel like others. Maybe we should gone with another QB. Because tonight was not on the offense line, but on Campbell himself.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by insideman

How many more excuses can Zorn and Campbell come with for their poor performances on the field. Why can't Zorn just tell everyone like it is. Zorn, should say "I can't call plays" and Campbell should say "I can't quarter back". I'm starting to feel like others. Maybe we should gone with another QB. Because tonight was not on the offense line, but on Campbell himself.

You sure you didn't watch last year's game instead? We won yesterday.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by insideman

How many more excuses can Zorn and Campbell come with for their poor performances on the field. Why can't Zorn just tell everyone like it is. Zorn, should say "I can't call plays" and Campbell should say "I can't quarter back". I'm starting to feel like others. Maybe we should gone with another QB. Because tonight was not on the offense line, but on Campbell himself.

Yep. Might not be all Campbell. Zorn may just be a sucky coach and play caller. That's what happens when the FO hires an unproven QBs coach to run the offense. He's got no resume that warrants getting the benefit of the doubt.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

Yep. Might not be all Campbell. Zorn may just be a sucky coach and play caller. That's what happens when the FO hires an unproven QBs coach to run the offense. He's got no resume that warrants getting the benefit of the doubt.

I call bullshit on you. You were on here last week claiming that Campbell needed to throw it deep to prove a point. THEN WE DID THAT and now you are questioning Zorn's playcalling.

Basically, you have no idea why you hate our offense, and just want change for the sake of change. Why torture yourself any longer. You won't be able to rationalize to yourself what's happening if things are working, so why watch?

Just admit it, you're watching in the hope that Campbell fails, and then you can say you had it right, and that we needed a new QB. If Zorn fails along the way, then he's just collateral damage in your eyes.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I call bullshit on you. You were on here last week claiming that Campbell needed to throw it deep to prove a point. THEN WE DID THAT and now you are questioning Zorn's playcalling.

Basically, you have no idea why you hate our offense, and just want change for the sake of change. Why torture yourself any longer. You won't be able to rationalize to yourself what's happening if things are working, so why watch?

Just admit it, you're watching in the hope that Campbell fails, and then you can say you had it right, and that we needed a new QB. If Zorn fails along the way, then he's just collateral damage in your eyes.

Woah, take it easy fella. Didn't mean to strike a nerve. Take a deep breath and have a few sips of your Sunday morning coffee. The one play I criticized last week was the pass to Randle El in traffic when DT was in single coverage down the sideline on a pattern that wasn't all that deep. My point was that he had options on that play and went for the short pass vs. a mid to long pass that for most QBs is just as high a percentage play.

I don't think it's radical to submit that Zorn MAY NOT be that good of a coach, since he's got nothing in his past he can hang his hat on, except for the 6-2 start that could have been as much smoke and mirrors as anything else.

The only thing I'll admint is that you're a tool.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

Woah, take it easy fella. Didn't mean to strike a nerve. Take a deep breath and have a few sips of your Sunday morning coffee. The one play I criticized last week was the pass to Randle El in traffic when DT was in single coverage down the sideline on a pattern that wasn't all that deep. My point was that he had options on that play and went for the short pass vs. a mid to long pass that for most QBs is just as high a percentage play.

I don't think it's radical to submit that Zorn MAY NOT be that good of a coach, since he's got nothing in his past he can hang his hat on, except for the 6-2 start that could have been as much smoke and mirrors as anything else.

The only thing I'll admint is that you're a tool.

You tried to use it as indisputable proof that the quarterback didn't have an ability to see a play as it developed. You were wrong, you didn't take responsibility for being wrong, and this week, the gameplan proved you hilariously wrong.

I personally don't really care what you think about Zorn as a coach, and perhaps you'll be proven right on him in the long run. Maybe you'll be right about Campbell too, in the long run.

At this point though, all you've proven is that you're a hypocrite, and that I don't believe that there can be an outcome to this season that makes us both happy.

So, in light of the evidence, I hope Campbell and Zorn do well, win double digit games, and that you have a miserable year watching it.