Randle El still useful?

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Buster

Absolutely. I really believe we were misusing him by having him try to be our #2 and sometimes when Moss was hurt, by making him the only legit WR option (not including Cooley since he's a TE).

Did we overpay for a #3 WR? Based on how we were using him, yes. But as a slot WR, he'll be great and worth the money this year. Look how valuable other great slot WRs can be, Wes Welker for example.

Wes grabbed 111 and 112 receptions the past two seasons, respectively. I'm not hating on Randle El, but he ain't no Wes Welker.

Also, Wes signed a 5 yr/$18 mil contract in '07.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Buster

I was watching an old Illinois-Indiana game last night on the Big Ten Network. Randel El was the QB and I was amazed how incredible of a college player he was. He did not throw many passes, but completed those he did throw, but it was his amazing runs on nearly EVERY play that were stunning. The defense knew he was going to run and he'd still bust off 20+ yard runs routinely.

I had forgotten how explosive he was.

It really makes me think he can still contribute despite all of the naysayers. Sure, that was college, against college defenses, in an option offense...but he seemed to have instincts that should carry over.

With that said, I have no idea when the "dancing" started on punt returns, he was much more decisive back then.

However, he can still be a solid slot WR for us. He has shown this the last few years on much needed 3rd downs and critical plays.

If we get him off the punt returns, I believe not only will the criticism die down, but I think he'll be a more effective WR. Now that he'll be open more often since defenses have to contend with up to 5 WRs instead of 2...he should have his best year yet as a Redskin.

It's too bad no NFL teams can run the option successfully, because he'd more praised as a running QB than Vick, McNabb and any others. He has/had incredible skills, just not completely a skill set that transferred into the NFL at his position.

If anyone has the Big Ten Network, keep an eye out for this game, you'll be amazed.

Thoughts on our former QB wide receiver and any predictions on his performance this season? Most people around here seem to want him out of town, but I believe he'll be an important piece of the offense this season.

You are right about ARE in college.

I think he'll do just fine in the slot, which is where he should have been all along. And, if he has a reduced role in the offense, he may pick it up as a returner.

[Monkeydad]

In that system, he could be.

If Welker was in Randel El's role the past few years, he'd be disappointing too.

I wasn't saying ARE would catch 100+ balls, that's ridiculous to think about...we have a better running game and different system than New England, it's apples to oranges...but I did mean that he can have a big impact.

Welker came cheap because he was essentially a kick returner with Miami...not much of a WR.

[freddyg12]

ARE is a solid slot reciever. He's not a star or even starting material, but our team has lacked a decent flanker for several years now to play opposite MOss.

ARE seems to have good chemistry w/JC & he works to get open, comes back to the qb when plays break down. How many red zone td's has JC thrown? I know a few were to ARE.

Per the original post, ARE is no Vick in terms of running ability, he's nowhere close to that good.

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by Buster

I was watching an old Illinois-Indiana game last night on the Big Ten Network. Randel El was the QB and I was amazed how incredible of a college player he was. He did not throw many passes, but completed those he did throw, but it was his amazing runs on nearly EVERY play that were stunning. The defense knew he was going to run and he'd still bust off 20+ yard runs routinely.

I had forgotten how explosive he was.

It really makes me think he can still contribute despite all of the naysayers. Sure, that was college, against college defenses, in an option offense...but he seemed to have instincts that should carry over.

With that said, I have no idea when the "dancing" started on punt returns, he was much more decisive back then.

However, he can still be a solid slot WR for us. He has shown this the last few years on much needed 3rd downs and critical plays.

If we get him off the punt returns, I believe not only will the criticism die down, but I think he'll be a more effective WR. Now that he'll be open more often since defenses have to contend with up to 5 WRs instead of 2...he should have his best year yet as a Redskin.

It's too bad no NFL teams can run the option successfully, because he'd more praised as a running QB than Vick, McNabb and any others. He has/had incredible skills, just not completely a skill set that transferred into the NFL at his position.

If anyone has the Big Ten Network, keep an eye out for this game, you'll be amazed.

Thoughts on our former QB wide receiver and any predictions on his performance this season? Most people around here seem to want him out of town, but I believe he'll be an important piece of the offense this season.

Case in point, that is why you hear scouts and sports reporters say what they say about Tim Tebow. Great college player, one of the best of all time.

But will not be so good in the pros.

The knock on ARE was never his skills and the way he plays. It was how much money Snyder threw at what most would call a "career #3" wide receiver.

[Beemnseven]

Randle El is one of those untouchable fan favorites who is able to stick around because of his cap number even though he doesn't do much for us.

[Chico23231]

Right, a waste of money and overall disappointment for the team. This was a bad signing when it happened and if I remember the Brandon Lloyd trade and signing happened around the same time. 2 more poor FO signings in a long line of stupid ass FO moves. The FO needs to realize championships are built through the draft. Drafting depth and trading picks for old players like Jason Taylor

[CRedskinsRule]

I like Randle El

[BringBackJoeT]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I like Randle El

Well said.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I like Randle El

I like him too. But having small average wr's isn't doing this offense any good and it seems to hurt us in the red zone. But let's see how he does in the slot this year.

[DFI]

I like ARE. As a mater of fact I am sitting here in a Randle El jersey, but I am not sure of his usefulness. he is not a good punt returner and his numbers have not been great. I can't imagine he is going anywhere but i am not sure it would make a huge difference if he did

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by DFI

I like ARE. As a mater of fact I am sitting here in a Randle El jersey, but I am not sure of his usefulness. he is not a good punt returner and his numbers have not been great. I can't imagine he is going anywhere but i am not sure it would make a huge difference if he did

agreed, not great but decent; in 08; 53 receptions, 593 yrds, 4 td's

I think he can put up no.s if he plays the slot & one of the other wr's becomes a deep threat in addition to Moss. ARE can get open in the middle of the field and he's been very dependable, doesn't drop much. He's just not a burner & he doesn't work well on the outside, near the sideline. He runs good crossing routes/slants & finds pockets in zones well.

[Hamoskinz]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

agreed, not great but decent; in 08; 53 receptions, 593 yrds, 4 td's

I think he can put up no.s if he plays the slot & one of the other wr's becomes a deep threat in addition to Moss. ARE can get open in the middle of the field and he's been very dependable, doesn't drop much. He's just not a burner & he doesn't work well on the outside, near the sideline. He runs good crossing routes/slants & finds pockets in zones well.

Basically the point I was going to say was said by Freddy. All the plays/TDs that ARE makes for us that I can remember are out-routes and cross routes/patterns which he seems to excel at. And that would be ideal in the slot WR position. He can change direction easily and quickly and in the slot he can certainly find the holes/pockets in coverage if JC is vigilant enough to see them.

[DFI]

I should qualify my statement about punt returning he was 54th in the league last year with a 6.5 yard average and two fumbles. so he held it pretty good but not much in the way of yards

[CRedskinsRule]

God, how bad a returner do you have to be to be 54th in a 32 team league. I still like him. Just let him stick to the slot. He will have a great year there.