Campbell's numbers dont lie

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Good stats, except for how many TDs he's thrown. Where's that stat? You could have a 130 QB rating and 4000+ yards, but at the end of the day when you're not putting the ball in the endzone... Yeah... Almost makes everything else moot.

While that may not be totally JC's fault, everyone's gonna end up pointing their finger at him at the end of the day.

Hmm...

-Thomas drops a TD pass
-Sellers drops a TD pass
-Zorn calls a HB option play
-We try to run the ball in at the goal line on 2 separate occasions
-Moss fumbles in the redzone

6 opps we came up with that pan out that weren't JC's fault. I may be missing some. But those are the ones I can think of right off hand.

*Not enough passes down the field for bombs. Why because he doesn't have time. By the end of the season if the line can start to hodl up many will be eating crow. We expect Manning & Brady. But at times this year they have had bad games. Brady just got out of his funk injured or not. We dont have the cohesiveness and discipline as a offense. So any QB would struggle here.


Do you see a pattern here?

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by dmvskinzfan08

Hmm...

-Thomas drops a TD pass
-Sellers drops a TD pass
-Zorn calls a HB option play
-We try to run the ball in at the goal line on 2 separate occasions
-Moss fumbles in the redzone

6 opps we came up with that pan out that weren't JC's fault. I may be missing some. But those are the ones I can think of right off hand.

*Not enough passes down the field for bombs. Why because he doesn't have time. By the end of the season if the line can start to hold up many will be eating crow. We expect Manning & Brady. But at times this year they have had bad games. Brady just got out of his funk injured or not. We dont have the cohesiveness and discipline as a offense. So any QB would struggle here.


Do you see a pattern here?

I just had to quote my own quote because some people obviously dont read...lol

[redskin4n]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Good stats, except for how many TDs he's thrown. Where's that stat? You could have a 130 QB rating and 4000+ yards, but at the end of the day when you're not putting the ball in the endzone... Yeah... Almost makes everything else moot.

While that may not be totally JC's fault, everyone's gonna end up pointing their finger at him at the end of the day.

Lol besides the no huddle(Where he calls his own plays), how many times has he gotten a chance to throw it. How many times when he did throw did the reciever either drop it or not run it in after the catch. You need to start paying attention.

In my opinion its not anyOnes fault but the team as a whole. Ya know what i mean? Like how #17 & #89 were clicking, the whole team needs to do. Then well be ready for week seven.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by redskin4n

Lol besides the no huddle(Where he calls his own plays), how many times has he gotten a chance to throw it. How many times when he did throw did the reciever either drop it or not run it in after the catch. You need to start paying attention.

In my opinion its not anyOnes fault but the team as a whole. Ya know what i mean? Like how #17 & #89 were clicking, the whole team needs to do. Then well be ready for week seven.

I think he's gotten way more time than he was getting last year. He might as well have been the tackling dummy.

I agree the line still isn't up to par, and when the pocket's collapsing there's really only so much you can do. But JC still seems to be on a learning curve as to what to do with the ball on the fly.

I by no means think he's a bad QB, in fact when he was struggling I was one of the people not calling for his head, I still don't. But I do think it looks as if he's still working on his QB mechanics.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

I think he's gotten way more time than he was getting last year. He might as well have been the tackling dummy.

I agree the line still isn't up to par, and when the pocket's collapsing there's really only so much you can do. But JC still seems to be on a learning curve as to what to do with the ball on the fly.

I by no means think he's a bad QB, in fact when he was struggling I was one of the people not calling for his head, I still don't. But I do think it looks as if he's still working on his QB mechanics.

Ironically the offensive line might have spent to much time on pass protection and at the same time neglected run blocking. It's similar to what happened to the Patriots during their 16-0 season. They ended up neglecting the run and by the end of the season they hadn't been able to develop a rhythm when it came to the running game. Then when they came against a pass rushing beast in the New York Giants they basically found themselves to be road kill.

It's an improvement for the Redskins O-line who spent the second half of last season unable to run block or pass block but what can you expect when you neglect the offensive line in favor of premadonna receivers.

Of course the players we have at running back should shoulder some of the blame. As we saw yesterday with the Lions and Kevin Smith. When he was in the game they were unstoppable, when he got hurt they weren't even able to get past the LOS. Ironically Chris Horton taking Kevin Smith out of the game is probably the main reason we were able to stay competitive in that game.

[skins89moss]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Good stats, except for how many TDs he's thrown. Where's that stat? You could have a 130 QB rating and 4000+ yards, but at the end of the day when you're not putting the ball in the endzone... Yeah... Almost makes everything else moot.

While that may not be totally JC's fault, everyone's gonna end up pointing their finger at him at the end of the day.

Not everyone just the fans that don't like him. He goes to another team and win a SB. We still mediocore Redskins cause our fans only know how to blame the coach or QB.

[theJBexperience]

Are you serious? What about his 3rd down conversion % or his red zone % or TD passes or Ws.

[Zerohero]

No offense but anyone right now who thinks Campbell is the real deal is insane. He cant even take the snap cleanly half the plays. Anyone can manipulate stats to make someone look good. So in this case your stats do lie.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Zerohero

No offense but anyone right now who thinks Campbell is the real deal is insane. He cant even take the snap cleanly half the plays. Anyone can manipulate stats to make someone look good. So in this case your stats do lie.

Manipulate. LOL.

In the words of Matty: Fail.

[skins89moss]

Originally Posted by Zerohero

No offense but anyone right now who thinks Campbell is the real deal is insane. He cant even take the snap cleanly half the plays. Anyone can manipulate stats to make someone look good. So in this case your stats do lie.

Damn Tony Romo has dropped snaps and even fumble it in the end zone. Shit happens some time its football. Thats so shallow thinking. I guess you want JarMarcus Russell, Brady Quinn,Kyle Boller,Jake Delhomme. Lame Redskins fans looking to always blame the QB.

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by Green1

Every thread someone is calling for campbell to be bench but his numbers are great.
1. Rating: 92.5 Higher than Brady, Big Ben, C. Palmer, Cutler, and Rivers
2. 9th in passing yards: More that Rodgers, Ryan, Palmer, E. Manning, & Cutler
3. 5th in the Comp. Percent. 67.6%: Higher than everyone in the league except P. Manning, Brees, Big Ben, and Chad Penn.

So what else does he have to do to be considered a good QB. The Skins have a good QB, just bad playcalling, no running game, and no O-line. Get off campbell's back. He is doing more with less better than anyone in the NFL. Check the stats the STATS don't lie!

Thanks for posting this I have been saying this for a while. Even his stretch last year when he didn't throw an interception for a while. He led the NFL with the "least ints for a minimum of 500 passes thrown. But we will just run him off then he will come back to hunt us landing somewhere in the NFC. Write it down.

People say he doesn't have a quick release. You can't have a quick release when no one is open. You usually hold on the ball too long when no one is open not just because you like how it feels in your hand. JC can't read defenses. How do people know this? He is not a leader? He lead his team to a national championship in college. People just love to hate on this board. Any QB placed in this position would not produce. Maybe if he was a running Qb like Vick and that's only because they would balance out thing with rushing yards. By that meaning when no one is open they can run and when the o-line breaks down they can run.

Quote from Tony Dungy and I would think he knows more about football than all of us.

Dungy: "It's not always getting the best players. It's building a good team, building a team that everyone has confidence in, and, right now, they don't have confidence." My take: Harrison faced Campbell so his comments are telling. But Dungy is more accurate, that this is bigger than the quarterback. The Redskins can change the QB after this season as well as the coach. If the culture doesn't change, the future won't be much different.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by dmvskinzfan08

Thanks for posting this I have been saying this for a while. Even his stretch last year when he didn't throw an interception for a while. He led the NFL with the "least ints for a minimum of 500 passes thrown. But we will just run him off then he will come back to hunt us landing somewhere in the NFC. Write it down.

People say he doesn't have a quick release. You can't have a quick release when no one is open. You usually hold on the ball too long when no one is open not just because you like how it feels in your hand. JC can't read defenses. How do people know this? He is not a leader. He lead his team to a national championship in college. People just love to hate on this board. Any QB placed in this position would not produce. Maybe if he was a running Qb like Vick and that's only because they would balance out thing with rushing yards. By that meaning when no one is open they can run and when the o-line breaks down they can run.

Quote from Tony Dungy and I would think he knows more about football than all of us.

Dungy: "It's not always getting the best players. It's building a good team, building a team that everyone has confidence in, and, right now, they don't have confidence." My take: Harrison faced Campbell so his comments are telling. But Dungy is more accurate, that this is bigger than the quarterback. The Redskins can change the QB after this season as well as the coach. If the culture doesn't change, the future won't be much different.

I'm down for rearranging the locker room and getting players their own personalized parking spaces. It worked in Detroit. Lets do eet!

[tdSKINS1]

Originally Posted by dmvskinzfan08

Thanks for posting this I have been saying this for a while. Even his stretch last year when he didn't throw an interception for a while. He led the NFL with the "least ints for a minimum of 500 passes thrown. But we will just run him off then he will come back to hunt us landing somewhere in the NFC. Write it down.

People say he doesn't have a quick release. You can't have a quick release when no one is open. You usually hold on the ball too long when no one is open not just because you like how it feels in your hand. JC can't read defenses. How do people know this? He is not a leader? He lead his team to a national championship in college. People just love to hate on this board. Any QB placed in this position would not produce. Maybe if he was a running Qb like Vick and that's only because they would balance out thing with rushing yards. By that meaning when no one is open they can run and when the o-line breaks down they can run.

Quote from Tony Dungy and I would think he knows more about football than all of us.

Dungy: "It's not always getting the best players. It's building a good team, building a team that everyone has confidence in, and, right now, they don't have confidence." My take: Harrison faced Campbell so his comments are telling. But Dungy is more accurate, that this is bigger than the quarterback. The Redskins can change the QB after this season as well as the coach. If the culture doesn't change, the future won't be much different.

He didn't lead Auburn to a National Championship. They got screwed and played my Hokies in the Sugar Bowl and won barely.

[doughtydoubter]

i dont hate on jc i love the guy...but what he lacks is leadership to take the game into his hands and get the win. where is the stat on 4th quarter comebacks on him

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by doughtydoubter

i dont hate on jc i love the guy...but what he lacks is leadership to take the game into his hands and get the win. where is the stat on 4th quarter comebacks on him

What are the stats on 4th quarter comebacks for most QBs. Ifyou said 4th quarter it might have been acceptable. But the comebacks kind of made yoru arguement less relevant. Only because only the great ones do that. Like Favre Manning and Brady. Only a hand full are probably successful. Even these Qbs had to take some lumps to get where they are. There is no learning curve in Skins Nation and most people are unrealistic or impatient in their expectations. Brady was in the same system fo ryeas before he started. Manning was horrible his first year and okay the second year as a starter. it took years for him to win a Superbowl. His system remained intact also. Favre. If Favre was here as a young player he would never have reached his potential. He would have been ran out of town.

So all I ask is be realistic and be patient. Mannings and Brady's dont come around that often. Both Flacco and Ryan are a product of a system that is QB friendly as far as their defenses and running games go. You can also say this for the coveted Sanchez. He is not putting up big numbers. he is maintaining the game and has a very good offense.