Can we trade Portis and Haynesworth without getting nailed(in future years) during a capless year?

[rypper11]

The problem with several of the contracts currently isn't the cap ramifications as much as the guaranteed money in several contracts (including Portis). In the uncapped year, all accelerated money means nothing. IMO, a lot of teams will dump old players, probably to have them sign min. contracts w/ NE.

[GusFrerotte]

I mentioned Portis since he is definitely on the decline. Big Al is to me a Bruce Smith type. He contributes, but just not worth the big $$$$$$$ we gave him. Plus we might get some picks for him. He is one of the few guys we could expect to get anything of value for. Let's face it, not much real star talent on the team right now. No team is going to give up a #1 pick for these guys, but you might get say 2 round 2 picks or 2 round 3 picks for each. My reasoning is to shore up the O line in a relatively short span(2-3 years) and possibly get a QB out of it(RB won't hurt either).

[Eknox]

No way, We cannot trade Big Al, he's our best player..other than Cooley..

[GusFrerotte]

I doubt you would get a first round pick for Al, Definitely not for Clinton. Multiple second rounders would be fine by me. Remember my line of thinking with this is to replentish the O line is a relatively short time period and pick up a QB.

[Redskins_P]

RT

You know that that stands for. If you need a hint: Schneed10

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Redskins_P

RT

You know that that stands for. If you need a hint: Schneed10

Yeah! I would think Schneed10 would be the man, It's been so long since we've played an uncapped year, all the ramifications associated with it seem like a blur at this point. There will probably be new rules in place that didn't exist before we moved to a salry cap.

[SBXVII]

Pay off the majority of AH's contract during the no CAP yr. Rework the contract in regards to the remaining money's owed.

Time to part ways with CP. Pay him off and cut him. We need young healthy RB's who actually want to play, not RB's who think preseason is not important. Timing is everything and CP fails to see the importance of him being on the field getting reps so the O-lineman and QB get their timing down.

[djnemo65]

Why the hate for Al? He is coming off a 12 million a year game.

[Trample the Elderly]

I can see dumping Portis but why dump Haynesworth? He's one of the only ones out there that knows what the hell he's doing. The money is going to be there for him; so there's no need to try and get out of anything or save money.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

I can see dumping Portis but why dump Haynesworth? He's one of the only ones out there that knows what the hell he's doing. The money is going to be there for him; so there's no need to try and get out of anything or save money.

For those who choose to criticize Haynesworth obviously haven't taken into consideration the fact the man is pushing more than 600 pounds on every snap he plays. It's not unrealistic to asume he will gradually tire. Since he occupies so many blockers, more should be expected from the players around him.

[warpaint]

Gus great question I have been really intrested in the whole uncapped year and what are the positives and negatives for our team because we have been spending without regard for some time now. I've been wondering what can we do next year that will help us out thats if it will be the only uncapped year?

What about other players on the roster? We are paying alot of money to multiple players that are not performing to there pay , by that I mean they will be paid to shower basiclly (Dion Sanders).

So can we pay Big Al the majority of his contract next year and instead of the year that we owe him 36million we will owe him say 3 or 4million? I have more qustions but if any one can answer those it will give me a better understanding because I am clueless on this matter?

[SFREDSKIN]

If I were to trade or cut players next year, it would be:

Hall
Betts
Moss
Griffin
Thomas
Samuels (retiring)
Daniels
Wynn
Montgomery
Heyer
Yoder
Suisham
Landry

[munny]

The only thing you really need to advance is the bonus. Otherwise you commit money unnecessarily. If the player just has normal salary, you can always cut them and pay no penalty, so we just would need to advance those bonuses.

My list would be a bit different. I would simply have a short list of keepers and everyone else I won't shed a tear for -- if it meant a real, true, rebuilding team based on youth and draft picks.

Keep:
Offense: Cooley
Defense: Mcintosh, Orakpo, Jarmon, Landry(I still have hope).

That's it.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by munny

The only thing you really need to advance is the bonus. Otherwise you commit money unnecessarily. If the player just has normal salary, you can always cut them and pay no penalty, so we just would need to advance those bonuses.

My list would be a bit different. I would simply have a short list of keepers and everyone else I won't shed a tear for -- if it meant a real, true, rebuilding team based on youth and draft picks.

Keep:
Offense: Cooley
Defense: Mcintosh, Orakpo, Jarmon, Landry(I still have hope).

That's it.

If I were going to rebuild, those are probably the guys I would keep as well -- although I'm not up to speed on their salaries. It's not about who's good -- it's all about value.

Talent < Salary = poor value
Talent > Salary = good value

Most of our good players are overpaid, and therefore we're getting poor value. When you are getting good value for your dollars, you have room to sign even more quality players. More quality players = more quality depth.

Haynesworth is the perfect example. He's overpaid, but people argue that since he's good it doesn't matter. Well, he can't stay in the game for more than a few consecutive plays, so when he comes out somebody else has to go in. But, we don't have much money to spend on that guy that replaces him, because that money went to Haynesworth. Don't even get me started on injuries.

Snyder seems like a financially savvy guy, so you'd think he'd understand the importance of value. But, it seems what is painfully obvious to the rest of the world is still just a mystery to Snyder.

[redsk1]

I would most likely cut CP next year. We need a fresh start and new blood. I guess that's a decision for new management though (hopefully).