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[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

So does this pave the way to take Suh/McCoy at #4 assuming one of them is there and Bradford and/or Okung are not? Because all this time I've been thinking, and I kind of still do, there's no point really in taking either of those guys. But now...makes you wonder

I would say we certainly aren't pigeonholed into a pick now. That being said, we will probably take the safety... ;-)

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Daseal

Am I incorrect in thinking Suh/McCoy would be square pegs in a round hole for the 3-4? I think AH will fit well (and actually like) a 3-4 DE. It's being an NT that really seems to upset/not fit Haynesworth.

Smoot -- any thoughts on if Mt. Cody will still be around in the 2nd round for us? He'd be a great 1-2 punch with Keamantu to rotate NTs.

Yeah I think he'll be there, and if we traded down in the first we could also possibly look at Dan Williams. I don't know that I would but it's possible

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Even if we still have Haynesworth, if McCoy or Suh are there at 4 we should only consider two options:

1) Trading down (we'll have tons of suitors)
2) Drafting Suh or McCoy

Anything else would require reaching too far to fill a need IMO.

So i have a hypothetical situation for everyone. Lets say

where the Rams took Bradford, the Lions took Okung, and a team (perhaps Buffalo), fearing that we'd take Clausen, traded with Tampa Bay to draft the increasingly overrated QB. With both Suh and McCoy on the board, we might not end up with any offers to trade down and we'd be stuck at 4.

Who would you draft?

Are the options just Suh and McCoy in your question?

[GMScud]

Great stuff there. On a side note, I'm still baffled at how much money D'Angelo Hall has been paid since he's been in the league.

[Redskins_P]

Effing genius. What a great read!

Can we trade Haynesworth tomorrow?

[CRedskinsRule]

Very good analysis, but one thing he said that I have trouble with, is the part about the release of the 10 players. That clearly could not have happened in a salary cap environment, or we would have be in true cap hell instead of skirting it as we have done these past so many years. That allowed us to clean the slate. AH and DH's renegotiations may allow us more flexibility going into the future, but dropping 30.5 million in dead weight players is a huge benefit for the team. I can't wait to see how the new CBA deals with all this money we've shuffled around. Maybe they will have a "Redskins Accounting Clause"!

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Are the options just Suh and McCoy in your question?

no, any player... except cj spiller

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

no, any player... except cj spiller

Whatcha gonna do now Smooty?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

no, any player... except cj spiller

Hater

Good question. I know OT is a need but I wouldn't really reach for Williams, Bulaga, or Brown. Which I think we would be doing if we took any of them at 4 (though my own mock still has us taking TW at 4). I'm all for BPA in the first round, but within reason. Within reason meaning I wouldn't, for example, take Eric Berry unless Landry is gone. So I guess the same philosophy would apply then to Suh and McCoy.

So I guess I'd say...Rolando McLain? No, probably not even him at #4

Tough question

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Whatcha gonna do now Smooty?

Find the loophole...and suggest we draft Clifford Spiller Jr.

[diehard]

I know some fans thought the team was holding back with FA signings but, if you ook at the quality of UFAs, there wasn't a slew of talent and youth available; Dansby being the exception. Now heading into the draft there's still too many 'what ifs'. That's why teams draft the best player available. How much can we lean on Kemoeatu playing NT or Haynesworth for that matter? Would it be smart for the team to purposely play Haynesworth at NT to push him towards a buyout of his contract? I just don't think any team considers Clausen a Top 5 pick so, it's quite a reach to draft him there. It is believable that (in no particular order) McCoy, Suh, Okung, and Bradford (pending his workout) are the consensus Top 4. So by default, one of them will fall into our lap.

This is where trade scenarios come into play. I don't think it's priority to draft a 4-3 DL such as Suh or McCoy; not at 4th overall. What's intriguing is what will SEA and KC do at 5th and 6th overall. SEA has two first rounders and could look to trade with WSH to leapfrog KC to get their guy. That could be a good position to be in.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Hater

Good question. I know OT is a need but I wouldn't really reach for Williams, Bulaga, or Brown. Which I think we would be doing if we took any of them at 4 (though my own mock still has us taking TW at 4). I'm all for BPA in the first round, but within reason. Within reason meaning I wouldn't, for example, take Eric Berry unless Landry is gone. So I guess the same philosophy would apply then to Suh and McCoy.

So I guess I'd say...Rolando McLain? No, probably not even him at #4

Tough question

Just curious, would you consider Joe Haden, taking into account Hall's renegotiated contract? Or do you feel Barnes has got us covered in case we need him?

[SmootSmack]

I would have considered Haden for sure about two months ago. I'm not as sold on him now, not at #4

[MTK]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Great stuff there. On a side note, I'm still baffled at how much money D'Angelo Hall has been paid since he's been in the league.

You wanna be baffled check out how much L. Coles has been paid over the course of his career.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I would have considered Haden for sure about two months ago. I'm not as sold on him now, not at #4

I'm assuming because of his 40 time? I agree that #4 would be too high. Especially with the other talent that will be available.