What would you do if this was your son?

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by hooskins

I don't agree with those norms and hence why I called it society's bullshit.

Those norms are created based what they see around them, parents, movies, ads, television, etc. If those things didn't exist(not suggesting they shouldn't and not suggesting it is even feasible, just proving my point) kids wouldn't feel that way and make fun of him.

Ideally you're right, but the harsh truth is the world isn't like that. SmootSmack is right, it's very interesting that the kids didn't seem to care and it is sad that at some point they probably will because of the bias they see around them.
However, I do think attitudes are starting to change and I do think that people are becoming more open minded but that kind of societal shift takes years and possibly generations to happen.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by hooskins

I don't agree with those norms and hence why I called it society's bullshit.

Those norms are created based what they see around them, parents, movies, ads, television, etc. If those things didn't exist(not suggesting they shouldn't and not suggesting it is even feasible, just proving my point) kids wouldn't feel that way and make fun of him.

I don't agree with them either, but that's not the point. They're not going away.

[MonkFan4Life]

What if that was my son ?

It wouldn't be. Point blank. I love my little boy to death, but I was raised a certain way and my son will know what it for females and what is for males. Just not for me. I know this isn't on the same level but if my son started chewing with his mouth open I wouldn't say hey son go on and be who you want to be. I say, Bernard, chew with your mouth closed son. If my son said hey dad I want to dress up as Dora, I'd say no son, You can go as Diego because Dora is a girl and you are a boy. If my son wanted to wear a Redskins Cheerleader outfit either, you want some Skins gear you better rock this sweatsuit or a jersey. My son will be who he will be no matter what I do but as a parent it's my job to steer him in the best way possible as I see it. He, much like I did, will choose which way he wants to go. I wasn't raised to curse but I do. Wasn't raised to burn trees, but I have. Wasn't raised to drink, I just finished having 2 Remy's and a MGD.

As far as the mother, I can't say that I'm proud of her but that's her child and she can do whatever she wants when it comes to him. But if it's my boy, no chance.

And Schneed I agree with you, I would have had a field day with that little boy until he started crying and I got in trouble but I would've taken that L for real. Couldn't have pased up the chance to break out some new material on a little dude dressd as Daphne,....and he had the purple boot covers PLUS the handbag ?

[BleedBurgundy]

Originally Posted by MonkFan4Life

What if that was my son ?

It wouldn't be. Point blank. I love my little boy to death, but I was raised a certain way and my son will know what it for females and what is for males. Just not for me. I know this isn't on the same level but if my son started chewing with his mouth open I wouldn't say hey son go on and be who you want to be. I say, Bernard, chew with your mouth closed son. If my son said hey dad I want to dress up as Dora, I'd say no son, You can go as Diego because Dora is a girl and you are a boy. If my son wanted to wear a Redskins Cheerleader outfit either, you want some Skins gear you better rock this sweatsuit or a jersey. My son will be who he will be no matter what I do but as a parent it's my job to steer him in the best way possible as I see it. He, much like I did, will choose which way he wants to go. I wasn't raised to curse but I do. Wasn't raised to burn trees, but I have. Wasn't raised to drink, I just finished having 2 Remy's and a MGD.

As far as the mother, I can't say that I'm proud of her but that's her child and she can do whatever she wants when it comes to him. But if it's my boy, no chance.

And Schneed I agree with you, I would have had a field day with that little boy until he started crying and I got in trouble but I would've taken that L for real. Couldn't have pased up the chance to break out some new material on a little dude dressd as Daphne,....and he had the purple boot covers PLUS the handbag ?

Agree 100%. Everybody's on this anti-bullying kick right now, but you can't fight human nature. As Schneed says, this is the way people enforce social norms. Yes, there have to be limits so that you don't see events like those of the last couple months happen, but overall, people need to be able to handle criticism if they choose to let their freak flag fly. It really seems like the overwhelming minority are trying to force a new set of rules on the rest of us with this bullshit. I look at that pic and think, that poor little boy, nobody's looking out for his best interest. The mom is clearly taking her skewed view of current events and is using her kid to make a statement. Her obvious predisposition to saying that her kid is gay is pretty indicative of that. If what she says is true, and that's a pretty big if, and this little boy requested to dress up like Daphne, guess what, you need to step up and suggest some alternatives and steer him away from a potentially harmful situation (in a non-traumatic way of course). He's five. Plenty of time for him later in life to get involved in political activism if he so chooses. Completely irresponsible parenting in my opinion.

[Monkeydad]

Sounds like to me this mother is trying to persuade her son to be gay later in life. NO CHILD knows anything about sexual preference at age 5. Kids in normal, healthy environments are not exposed to or think about sex when they've only been alive for 60 months old.

Sounds like this mother is trying to create some kind of living environment that would either push the son towards homosexuality or just have some kind of liberal "show them options even if they're too young to make the decision".

5-year old kids need to be interested in things like Scooby Doo. Not crossdressing. A good parent would not put their child in a situation where they will definitely be degraded or made fun of. Your son wants to wear makeup and a wig to school? Explain to them the differences between genders then and let HIM know he should dress appropriately for a little boy. What if your son wanted to wear a KKK costume because he thought it was a ghost or mistakenly interpreted it as a superhero costume? A parent needs to set right and wrong, age appropriateness and simply protect their child from inevitable consequences for trying to make a controversial statement with a child. This is no better than putting your kid in a political protest holding a sign about abortion or war...they're just not appropriate issues for a child.

To me, it sounds like the mother KNEW this reaction would occur and wants to use that poor child to make a statement and create a debate or controversy on her social/political beliefs. The other kids, who don't understand sexual preferences and crossdressing...just did what they naturally did and laughed at the boy dressed like a girl. I bet they'd laugh if a kid came in dressed as a doughnut with sprinkles too, it's just an unexpected surprise to them. However, to other parents and faculty, the sight was likely far from funny. It's probably a disturbing sight seeing a child put in a sure situation to get mocked, while being confused about his gender and raised in a questionable learning environment at home.

Homosexuality is a choice, it's not genetic. It's a choice made sometimes consciously, sometimes subconsciously...and it's a result of the environment and experiences as the person approaches adulthood. So many sexual abuse victims become sexually-confused later in life. This kid is being set out on the path choosing homosexuality later in life, by his own mother. Quite sickening with the disease rates, health risks and moral issues that comes with the lifestyle. A mother should want to protect a son, not indoctrinate him and set him up for a lot of grief and possible danger later in life.

Way to ruin Halloween and possibly a child's upbringing, woman.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Buster

Sounds like to me this mother is trying to persuade her son to be gay later in life. NO CHILD knows anything about sexual preference at age 5. Kids in normal, healthy environments are not exposed to or think about sex when they've only been alive for 60 months old.

Sounds like this mother is trying to create some kind of living environment that would either push the son towards homosexuality or just have some kind of liberal "show them options even if they're too young to make the decision".

5-year old kids need to be interested in things like Scooby Doo. Not crossdressing. A good parent would not put their child in a situation where they will definitely be degraded or made fun of. Your son wants to wear makeup and a wig to school? Explain to them the differences between genders then and let HIM know he should dress appropriately for a little boy. What if your son wanted to wear a KKK costume because he thought it was a ghost or mistakenly interpreted it as a superhero costume? A parent needs to set right and wrong, age appropriateness and simply protect their child from inevitable consequences for trying to make a controversial statement with a child. This is no better than putting your kid in a political protest holding a sign about abortion or war...they're just not appropriate issues for a child.

To me, it sounds like the mother KNEW this reaction would occur and wants to use that poor child to make a statement and create a debate or controversy on her social/political beliefs. The other kids, who don't understand sexual preferences and crossdressing...just did what they naturally did and laughed at the boy dressed like a girl. I bet they'd laugh if a kid came in dressed as a doughnut with sprinkles too, it's just an unexpected surprise to them. However, to other parents and faculty, the sight was likely far from funny. It's probably a disturbing sight seeing a child put in a sure situation to get mocked, while being confused about his gender and raised in a questionable learning environment at home.

Homosexuality is a choice, it's not genetic. It's a choice made sometimes consciously, sometimes subconsciously...and it's a result of the environment and experiences as the person approaches adulthood. So many sexual abuse victims become sexually-confused later in life. This kid is being set out on the path choosing homosexuality later in life, by his own mother. Quite sickening with the disease rates, health risks and moral issues that comes with the lifestyle. A mother should want to protect a son, not indoctrinate him and set him up for a lot of grief and possible danger later in life.

Way to ruin Halloween and possibly a child's upbringing, woman.

I dressed up as Benjamin Franklin when I was 5...and now I fly kites in the rain, churn my own butter and run an apothecary

Well he did go as Daphne from Scooby Doo, and had dressed up as Scooby himself the previous couple of years

The kids weren't the issue, it was the moms who were saying stuff

[firstdown]

Probably a single mom and why is she calling him gay.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I dressed up as Benjamin Franklin when I was 5...and now I fly kites in the rain, churn my own butter and run an apothecary

Well he did go as Daphne from Scooby Doo, and had dressed up as Scooby himself the previous couple of years

The kids weren't the issue, it was the moms who were saying stuff

The woman claims her son is gay at age 5. This is beyond a costume, she's introducing and pushing the kid to make a choice he shouldn't even be considering for at least another decade, if ever at all.

I also agree with those asking where the father (or his influence) is. No matter what side you're on, the whole topic of sexual choices is completely inappropriate for a child this young. She's blatantly using her son to make some sick social statement.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Buster

Sounds like to me this mother is trying to persuade her son to be gay later in life. NO CHILD knows anything about sexual preference at age 5. Kids in normal, healthy environments are not exposed to or think about sex when they've only been alive for 60 months old.

Sounds like this mother is trying to create some kind of living environment that would either push the son towards homosexuality or just have some kind of liberal "show them options even if they're too young to make the decision".

5-year old kids need to be interested in things like Scooby Doo. Not crossdressing. A good parent would not put their child in a situation where they will definitely be degraded or made fun of. Your son wants to wear makeup and a wig to school? Explain to them the differences between genders then and let HIM know he should dress appropriately for a little boy. What if your son wanted to wear a KKK costume because he thought it was a ghost or mistakenly interpreted it as a superhero costume? A parent needs to set right and wrong, age appropriateness and simply protect their child from inevitable consequences for trying to make a controversial statement with a child. This is no better than putting your kid in a political protest holding a sign about abortion or war...they're just not appropriate issues for a child.

To me, it sounds like the mother KNEW this reaction would occur and wants to use that poor child to make a statement and create a debate or controversy on her social/political beliefs. The other kids, who don't understand sexual preferences and crossdressing...just did what they naturally did and laughed at the boy dressed like a girl. I bet they'd laugh if a kid came in dressed as a doughnut with sprinkles too, it's just an unexpected surprise to them. However, to other parents and faculty, the sight was likely far from funny. It's probably a disturbing sight seeing a child put in a sure situation to get mocked, while being confused about his gender and raised in a questionable learning environment at home.

Homosexuality is a choice, it's not genetic. It's a choice made sometimes consciously, sometimes subconsciously...and it's a result of the environment and experiences as the person approaches adulthood. So many sexual abuse victims become sexually-confused later in life. This kid is being set out on the path choosing homosexuality later in life, by his own mother. Quite sickening with the disease rates, health risks and moral issues that comes with the lifestyle. A mother should want to protect a son, not indoctrinate him and set him up for a lot of grief and possible danger later in life.

Way to ruin Halloween and possibly a child's upbringing, woman.

Seriously that is some laughable shit, did someone teach you that you should **** girls no it was ingrained in you. No one sat down with me and said now Matthew you should like big boobs, blond hair and vagina's. it is a nature not nurture thing.

[hooskins]

Look I view myself as a realist too, but if I think something is wrong I am not going to just accept the status quo as a part of society. If we did that we would still be killing witches and enslaving races.

[MonkFan4Life]

Yeah first you're right. Why is she calling him gay, that's how she starts out. My son is gay and if you care then I don't want to know you. Also F her bull. My dad died when I was 9 and I had 3 women in the house and 4 by the time I was 15 so I don't want to hear that my son does what the girls do crap. If she wants to raise her child as a girl or allow him to do things that a female will do then she should just say it instead of putting it on the child. Really, that's where this is effed up. She's all well it's his decision and Buster you make a good point. If he wanted to wear a KKK outfit because he thought it was a ghost what would she do ?

My mother made sure that I knew the difference between men and women/boys and girls. I'm sure if there was something that wasn't right in her opinion then she corrected it as she saw fit. Apparently this woman sees no problem with it and hey like I said that's her son.

[firstdown]

Daphne from Scooby Doo? He looks like street whore. LOL

OK so who would let their 5 yr. old go to school like that. I would not.

[MonkFan4Life]

Not I said the father of a boy !

[Schneed10]

Buster you're a serious idiot. It's an established scientific fact that homosexuality is genetic.

Sometimes you do get a psychologically damaged person swinging one way or another, but by and large it's hardwired.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Buster you're a serious idiot. It's an established scientific fact that homosexuality is genetic.

Sometimes you do get a psychologically damaged person swinging one way or another, but by and large it's hardwired.

Thank you, look for Firstdown to back him up on his dummyness like Saden1 says.