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Old 11-17-2010, 01:46 PM   #16
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Re: Need Something Positive? Look back to History!

What this team should be doing is focusing on next year, start playing young guys and give them experience. Promote Austin, Davis, Cook, play Riley and let's see what they can provide and give them experience.
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Old 11-17-2010, 02:51 PM   #17
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I'm not even sure I buy the lack of effort thing, seems like a lame excuse the fans like to go to. Some of the players on Twitter were really taking offense to the idea they weren't playing hard.

I don't believe it's a lack of effort across the board, but I would be hard pressed to believe that every single active player on the field was giving it 110%. IF in fact they were, Lord help us is all I'm saying!
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Old 11-17-2010, 02:54 PM   #18
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If you need something positive, this helps

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Old 11-17-2010, 03:02 PM   #19
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Gives me a tear in the eye! Man how I miss Sean Taylor!
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Old 11-17-2010, 03:06 PM   #20
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I'm tired of looking back at history its time to make some new history for this team. No Monday nights record setting game is not what I'm talking about.
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Old 11-17-2010, 06:34 PM   #21
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Well, yes, it absolutely SUCKS that our team got demolished last Monday night. Also to add that we got demolished by a division opponent.

However, there is something to consider in order to keep our chins up.

I was having a "YouTube" moment the other night and found the 1991 NFC Championship game between our beloved Redskins and the Atlanta Falcons. Yes, this was the year of "Too Legit To Quit". This was the year where the Redskins demolished the Falcons...something like 56-17 or something to that effect, during the regular season. Anyway, did the Falcons pack up and call it a season after that? Nope....they still made the second round of the playoffs that year and played the Redskins a bit closer in the playoffs.

My point is, I think a team sometimes needs things like this to happen to wake them up and realize that there are repercussions to accepting mediocrity and it catches up to you after awhile. I think a team also needs things like this to happen to see who is going to quit on you and who isn't when the going gets tough. If anything, I think Monday's massacre makes it easier for Shanny and the coaching staff to see who is going to be playing here next year and who they are shipping out. All my opinion of course, but you never know..this could be the thing that scares this team into turning things around. OR, it could be the one that sends them into a tailspin, downward spiral....but hey, I like to think optimistically...LOL!
We are thinking very much the same way brother. Good perspective!
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Old 11-17-2010, 08:23 PM   #22
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Re: Need Something Positive? Look back to History!

Whether it was because Monday was an anomaly or because the Redskins in fact learned something from the beat-down, the game against the Titans will set the tone for the rest of the season. If we go out there and get crushed due to lackluster football, our season will slide into abject misery. If we play hard -- even if we don't win, but make a compelling showing that we're a team to be reckoned with -- it will say something else about the team.

Let's hope for the latter and not the former.
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Old 11-17-2010, 11:10 PM   #23
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Well, to me it just confirmed my worst fears, that we really are far from being contenders. ANother aspect or angle was touched on by Jason Whitlock from Foxsports.com, in that he thought the players might have just quit on Shanny because of the Donovan debacle. IF there is any credence to that angle there might be more trouble ahead if the L column starts to get a lot bigger. Zorny lost the locker room after the Detroit debacle last season, it would be a shame if Shanny started to lose it after this Lions loss. Our FO needs to drop the win now crap and focus on building a team, and get a youth movement going. The acquisition of Galloway and Roydell Williams was a waste. Whatever the reason for getting them, it has proven to be faulty. Getting De angelo Hall was the decent move made recently, but with our pass defense ranked 31st, he isn't that great, unless he can keep getting 2-4 picks a game. Our first two picks need to be linemen and maybe we can sneak a good WR with our 3rd pick.
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Old 11-17-2010, 11:14 PM   #24
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I tought getting Donovan was a great move at the time, but we all should have thought better of it in hindsight. Great QBs always are surrounded with top notch talent. Manning, Brady, or Breeze would suck with this offensive roster.
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Old 11-17-2010, 11:20 PM   #25
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I'm tired of looking back at history its time to make some new history for this team. No Monday nights record setting game is not what I'm talking about.

I agree, at 40 all the great Skins SBs are nothing more than a distant memory for me. Shoot even the Norv/Gus era is growing hazy. All we have been stuck with since 2000 is crappy football and dumb FO moves to keep us gabbing about the team. Enough of the playing around!!!!! Get to work and build a team.
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Old 11-17-2010, 11:24 PM   #26
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Well, to me it just confirmed my worst fears, that we really are far from being contenders. ANother aspect or angle was touched on by Jason Whitlock from Foxsports.com, in that he thought the players might have just quit on Shanny because of the Donovan debacle. IF there is any credence to that angle there might be more trouble ahead if the L column starts to get a lot bigger. Zorny lost the locker room after the Detroit debacle last season, it would be a shame if Shanny started to lose it after this Lions loss. Our FO needs to drop the win now crap and focus on building a team, and get a youth movement going. The acquisition of Galloway and Roydell Williams was a waste. Whatever the reason for getting them, it has proven to be faulty. Getting De angelo Hall was the decent move made recently, but with our pass defense ranked 31st, he isn't that great, unless he can keep getting 2-4 picks a game. Our first two picks need to be linemen and maybe we can sneak a good WR with our 3rd pick.
Whitlock, like Feinstein though less overtly, has been hinting for a couple of weeks now that it's because DM5 is black. He's a moron
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Old 11-18-2010, 12:14 AM   #27
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Monday night made me think back to the famous "Body Bag Game", which was also versus Philly on a Monday night 20 years ago. The Iggles whipped us physically every way they could that night, knocking out 10+ players, including all of our QBs - B. Mitch had to finish the game at QB! Yet come playoff time, we went to Philly, and got our revenge, beating them by 2 TDs. The best part was that big mouth Buddy Ryan, who gloated so loudly after the Body Bag Game, was fired after that playoff loss. Other than our Super Bowl wins, and two NFC Championship victories over Dallas, this is my favorite Redskins victory (and redemption).
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Old 11-18-2010, 12:18 AM   #28
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During the 2005 playoff season we lost 36-0 to the Giants. So a bounce-back is possible. Problem is, that '05 team was more talented than this one, I think.

Every now and then, a team needs to have its pants yanked down for a good fanny-paddling. They got theirs the other night, in front of millions. Maybe that'll do the trick.
In 2005 we had Joe Gibbs as head coach also. Some coaches know how to get the most out of their players. Gibbs was great at taking what he had and working it to the best.
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Old 11-18-2010, 08:20 AM   #29
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Well, to me it just confirmed my worst fears, that we really are far from being contenders. ANother aspect or angle was touched on by Jason Whitlock from Foxsports.com, in that he thought the players might have just quit on Shanny because of the Donovan debacle. IF there is any credence to that angle there might be more trouble ahead if the L column starts to get a lot bigger. Zorny lost the locker room after the Detroit debacle last season, it would be a shame if Shanny started to lose it after this Lions loss. Our FO needs to drop the win now crap and focus on building a team, and get a youth movement going. The acquisition of Galloway and Roydell Williams was a waste. Whatever the reason for getting them, it has proven to be faulty. Getting De angelo Hall was the decent move made recently, but with our pass defense ranked 31st, he isn't that great, unless he can keep getting 2-4 picks a game. Our first two picks need to be linemen and maybe we can sneak a good WR with our 3rd pick.
When you hear the phrase, "the coach has lost the locker room" it seems to imply that the coach is a goner. That won't be the case here. If anyone quits on Shanahan, it'll be the player that's gone, not the head coach.
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Old 11-18-2010, 02:52 PM   #30
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I like your positive thinking, but the sad thing is, the Redskins keep getting blowed out like this over the years, with seemingly nothing changing. And I imagine the team learned absolutley nothing following their loss at the hands of the eagles.
Blowed out.
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