Was Jamie Dukes out of line on Ryan Mallett?

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

White or black that's a bush league comment , people act like whites are way better off but that's not true at all

Ok. Some people scratch that lots of people dont agree with you. I've seen whites get treated better in certain cases, I've seen blacks get treated better in certain cases. Is it 50/50? No, only a naive dumbass would believe that, but you can't look me in the computer screen and tell me everyone gets treated the same regardless what their race is.

[diehard]

I take this as somewhat of a compliment for a football player, black or white.

[Longtimefan]

another example of the scrutiny athletes are subjected too on a regular basis. From his alleged drug use (addiction) to his leadership skills, it's impossible for him to escape his past, however, the remark does not strike me as racist.

With so many in the industry trying to make news now days, nobody and no thing is off limits.

[Jontrem]

Skin color has got to stop mattering in this country. I am so sick of both racists and people who see racists everywhere. This comment should have gotten a collective shrug of the shoulders from everyone but today everyone is so freaking sensitive to every comment involving skin color that this somehow becomes a story.

[GMScud]

I don't think it's all that racist, but IMO the point here is the double standard we see so often in today's society with regard to race issues between blacks and whites.

More often than not, if a white guy is referred to by a black guy as "white boy" or a white guy does something athletic and you hear "not bad for a white guy," most people don't bat an eye. Just like Jamie Dukes can call Mallett a white street guy, and no one outside the blogosphere cares.

But if Rich Eisen had called Julio Jones a "black boy," or street, hood, ghetto, nappy headed, or some other term of that nature, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton would be beating down his door.

Me personally, I don't really give a damn. Skin color has never really mattered to me. But the double standard annoys me.

[Eknox]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I don't think it's all that racist, but IMO the point here is the double standard we see so often in today's society with regard to race issues between blacks and whites.

More often than not, if a white guy is referred to by a black guy as "white boy" or a white guy does something athletic and you hear "not bad for a white guy," most people don't bat an eye. Just like Jamie Dukes can call Mallett a white street guy, and no one outside the blogosphere cares.

But if Rich Eisen had called Julio Jones a "black boy," or street, hood, ghetto, nappy headed, or some other term of that nature, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton would be beating down his door.

Me personally, I don't really give a damn. Skin color has never really mattered to me. But the double standard annoys me.

Wow so that's what u think of us? Sounds like it does matter to you.
You want than to lose his job? Will that make u feel better?

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Eknox

Wow so that's what u think of us? Sounds like it does matter to you.
You want than to lose his job? Will that make u feel better?

What????

Re-read my post. I said I don't think it was particularly racist, and that skin color doesn't matter to me. I just simply pointed out a double-standard that without a doubt exists in society.

[Son Of Man]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I don't think it's all that racist, but IMO the point here is the double standard we see so often in today's society with regard to race issues between blacks and whites.

More often than not, if a white guy is referred to by a black guy as "white boy" or a white guy does something athletic and you hear "not bad for a white guy," most people don't bat an eye. Just like Jamie Dukes can call Mallett a white street guy, and no one outside the blogosphere cares.

But if Rich Eisen had called Julio Jones a "black boy," or street, hood, ghetto, nappy headed, or some other term of that nature, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton would be beating down his door.

Me personally, I don't really give a damn. Skin color has never really mattered to me. But the double standard annoys me.

Pretty accurate statement here. Hard to argue with this post.

BTW- Al Sharpton & Jesse Jackson are glorified racial ambulance chasers. They rip into Imus but celebrate Ludicris. Although both wrong, what's really worse calling someone "nappy headed hoe" or telling her to "move bitch get out the way" and sell records to young girls encouraging misogony?

Before some of you get mad about me dissing Sharpton & Jackson....I'm Black...lol.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Son Of Man

Pretty accurate statement here. Hard to argue with this post.

BTW- Al Sharpton & Jesse Jackson are glorified racial ambulance chasers. They rip into Imus but celebrate Ludicris. Although both wrong, what's really worse calling someone "nappy headed hoe" or telling her to "move bitch get out the way" and sell records to young girls encouraging misogony?

Before some of you get mad about me dissing Sharpton & Jackson....I'm Black...lol.

Lol. I like that. So true. My eyes immediately roll at the sight of either of those two.

[Eknox]

[QUOTE=Son Of Man;793694]Pretty accurate statement here. Hard to argue with this post.

BTW- Al Sharpton & Jesse Jackson are glorified racial ambulance chasers. They rip into Imus but celebrate Ludicris. Although both wrong, what's really worse calling someone "nappy headed hoe" or telling her to "move bitch get out the way" and sell records to young girls encouraging misogony?

Before some of you get mad about me dissing Sharpton & Jackson....I'm Black...lol.[/QUOTE
I don't know you or do I know if you are a racist either one of you, but this comment(black boy," or street, hood, ghetto, nappy headed,) was not necessary to prove your point. Being a black man I was more offended by this than any of the other guys that jumped on this subject like flies on shit. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton might not be important to you, but if I got my ass beat by the police or was discriminated against these are the guys I want in my corner. You need to check your history son I'm talking about the 50's and 60's when things you don't even understand were going on these guys don't mean much to you. But attacking them personally and they are Icons in the black community makes me sad for you my friend. I'm not calling you racists but it sure sounds like it the way you worded these statements. There are plenty of white racists there's an organization committed to this called the KKK. Jesse and Al don't preach violence or hate like this organization and unless they went up against you personally or a loved one what's your beef?

[Son Of Man]

What

[Son Of Man]

[quote=Eknox;793717]

Originally Posted by Son Of Man

Pretty accurate statement here. Hard to argue with this post.

BTW- Al Sharpton & Jesse Jackson are glorified racial ambulance chasers. They rip into Imus but celebrate Ludicris. Although both wrong, what's really worse calling someone "nappy headed hoe" or telling her to "move bitch get out the way" and sell records to young girls encouraging misogony?

Before some of you get mad about me dissing Sharpton & Jackson....I'm Black...lol.[/QUOTE
I don't know you or do I know if you are a racist either one of you, but this comment(black boy," or street, hood, ghetto, nappy headed,) was not necessary to prove your point. Being a black man I was more offended by this than any of the other guys that jumped on this subject like flies on shit. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton might not be important to you, but if I got my ass beat by the police or was discriminated against these are the guys I want in my corner. You need to check your history son I'm talking about the 50's and 60's when things you don't even understand were going on these guys don't mean much to you. But attacking them personally and they are Icons in the black community makes me sad for you my friend. I'm not calling you racists but it sure sounds like it the way you worded these statements. There are plenty of white racists there's an organization committed to this called the KKK. Jesse and Al don't preach violence or hate like this organization and unless they went up against you personally or a loved one what's your beef?

The writing here is too remedial for me to offer an adequate rebuttal. In the future, please take the time to form a well thought out paragraph before typing. Thanks.

But- I never said those two preach hate (unless you count Jackson's remarks that he wanted to cut Obama's nuts off). What I was referring to was there hypocrisy. Going after sensational news stories about race (Imus, Kramer from Seinfeld, etc) with vitreal while giving "rapers" & "entertainers" a pass for the role they play in the degredation of black communities for profit. Also, I was unaware of Jackson's and Sharpton's social contributions in the 1950's. I am throuroughly impressed seeing as though Jackson was a teenager and Sharpton was born in 1954....power to the toddlers!

BTW- How can you feel comfortable calling me a racist without knowing my ethnic background or upbringing? Your ignorance shines brightly in this post.

Oh Yeah....seriously, the KKK? WTF does that terrorist organization have to do with the subject matter?

[itvnetop]

Originally Posted by Eknox

Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton might not be important to you, but if I got my ass beat by the police or was discriminated against these are the guys I want in my corner. You need to check your history son I'm talking about the 50's and 60's when things you don't even understand were going on these guys don't mean much to you. But attacking them personally and they are Icons in the black community makes me sad for you my friend.

Tyler Perry's supposedly an "icon" in the black community... and that makes me sad.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

I wasn't offended by anything GMScud said because

A) He wasn't talking about me (or you for that matter)
B) He was giving an example of something that technically is true.
C) I don't know him.
And finally D) I don't care if he was racist.

BTW I am black also and I know what Al and Jesse mean to a lot of black people but they do have a reputation of always going to the extreme. (Even when not necessary.)

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Eknox

Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton might not be important to you, but if I got my ass beat by the police or was discriminated against these are the guys I want in my corner. You need to check your history son I'm talking about the 50's and 60's when things you don't even understand were going on these guys don't mean much to you. But attacking them personally and they are Icons in the black community makes me sad for you my friend.

I think the Duke LaCrosse players would probably disagree with you. Your beloved Jesse Jackson supported a future murder over a bunch of college kids all over the color of their skin.

Duke lacrosse accuser charged with attempted murder - Durham County - NewsObserver.com


Fact is bro, if the police beat your ass and it's not in the national spotlight, he's not going to give your ass a second thought. I saw this HBO special where this guy from Cali was pursuing his family members death by officers. All he wanted was answers, and nobody would help this guy. He finally ended up going to Washington, DC and it there was this event going on where many black representatives were attending. He waited till Jesse and AL came out only to be basically stiff armed by the men because they weren't really interested. However, there was awesome black congresswoman that stopped and listened to the man's story and then gave him contact information to her office. I applauded that woman, and did more for that man than those frauds Jesse and AL did.

You might be right. Maybe those guys were instrumental during the 50's and 60's, but their agenda has clearly changed since that time.

I think too much is made on race all together. The more you talk about it, the more of a issue it becomes.