Redskins’ popularity wanes - PFT

[skins89moss]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Honestly, the people that don't like Snyder need to get over it. I am not going to defend any of the stupid things he did in the past, but right now he is a non-issue for the team. He's not making any decisions nor is he interfering with the team, he's just signing the checks. Personally, event the whole law suit against that newspaper is a non-issue for me, and it really shouldn't be for anyone as it relates to the team (which it doesn't).

I'm not saying that people should like Snyder, but unless he start f*cking the team up by interfering with operations or hire sh*theads like Vinny again, Snyder doesn't affect whether I like the team or not. And it really shouldn't affect anyone, but some people get easily distracted by non-important things.

That being said, I think this whole popularity issue with training camp probably has more to do with the lockout, the economy, and the heat rather than Snyder. PFT probably posted that article since they really haven't had anything to report about the Redskins.

I agree get off the Synder Hate he stepped aside so now whats the beef. The people that are complaining get a life. Dont make the Redskins your life make them the team you support. I always faithful to the Redskins Nation.

[mooby]

I'm planning on going to TC sometime this week or next, and honestly, even though I'm excited and looking forward to it, I can see why people would wanna stay home. Nobody wants to sit in 100 degree heat to watch a team that's gone 10-22 over the last two seasons. And the fact that it's going to take me almost half a tank to drive all the way out there and back doesn't help either.

[rbanerjee23]

Just need to start winning and the whole situation will reverse itself.

[#56fanatic]

There are probably a ton of reasons why people have chosen not to go this year. Temps, money, lockout, lack of planning time, lack of "star power" . SOme may not like Snyder but I can't name an owner that is willing to spend Millions over Millions over Millions of his money to make the team better, the game experience better, the stadium better, training camp better. The guy loves the Redskins, and I am guessing the losing is hurting him more than it hurts us. He's made some rash decisions over the last decade but lets not forget he was 34 when he bought the team. Which one of us wouldn't have done some of the things he did when he bought the team. I probably would have tried to keep my prints on the team for a while as he did. We all think we know more about football personel than we really do. I am hoping he is learning his place this year and from what I can see the last couple of years he has been the check signer and that is about it. So yeah, those that want Snyder to sell and can't stand him, I would say get over it. He isn't going to sell, and he isn't going anywhere. Put it behind you and support the Skins, or dont. I'd rather have a guy that has his passion and willing to do whatever it takes than an owner that is cheap (bills, bengals, SF,)

[sportscurmudgeon]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

There are probably a ton of reasons why people have chosen not to go this year. Temps, money, lockout, lack of planning time, lack of "star power" . SOme may not like Snyder but I can't name an owner that is willing to spend Millions over Millions over Millions of his money to make the team better, the game experience better, the stadium better, training camp better. The guy loves the Redskins, and I am guessing the losing is hurting him more than it hurts us. He's made some rash decisions over the last decade but lets not forget he was 34 when he bought the team. Which one of us wouldn't have done some of the things he did when he bought the team. I probably would have tried to keep my prints on the team for a while as he did. We all think we know more about football personel than we really do. I am hoping he is learning his place this year and from what I can see the last couple of years he has been the check signer and that is about it. So yeah, those that want Snyder to sell and can't stand him, I would say get over it. He isn't going to sell, and he isn't going anywhere. Put it behind you and support the Skins, or dont. I'd rather have a guy that has his passion and willing to do whatever it takes than an owner that is cheap (bills, bengals, SF,)

Ever heard of Robert Kraft...?

[NLC1054]

There's a level of bullshit in this fanbase that's unbelievable.

After years of having the "win now" mentality, and losing, the team is finally rebuilding, finally adding team first players instead of me first players, has dynamic young players, is making smart free agent signings and spending money wisely, has completely removed Dan Snyder from football operations...they're pretty much doing everything the fanbase has been demanding for years...

...And NOW is the time when people say they're tapping out and don't want to show up and support the team?

Christ...

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by NLC1054

There's a level of bullshit in this fanbase that's unbelievable.

After years of having the "win now" mentality, and losing, the team is finally rebuilding, finally adding team first players instead of me first players, has dynamic young players, is making smart free agent signings and spending money wisely, has completely removed Dan Snyder from football operations...they're pretty much doing everything the fanbase has been demanding for years...

...And NOW is the time when people say they're tapping out and don't want to show up and support the team?Christ...

lol ... not only that, many are screaming about UFA's, etc., just read the Board. It's crazy.

Please sir, may I have another?

[mooby]

Originally Posted by NLC1054

There's a level of bullshit in this fanbase that's unbelievable.

After years of having the "win now" mentality, and losing, the team is finally rebuilding, finally adding team first players instead of me first players, has dynamic young players, is making smart free agent signings and spending money wisely, has completely removed Dan Snyder from football operations...they're pretty much doing everything the fanbase has been demanding for years...

...And NOW is the time when people say they're tapping out and don't want to show up and support the team?

Christ...

I honestly think it's just bad timing with the lockout and all. Nobody even knew if a training camp was going to happen, so when the lockout suddenly ends and they announce training camp fan practices start in a week, I'm sure there were a lot of people that said they'll just not go this year. And it's bad timing with the recession, and the losing, and all the other factors involved.

But if you think the fan reaction to not supporting the team is bad now, wait until we start losing games this season. More and more of the average fan will be talking about how all the moves we made this offseason aren't contributing jack, and how we're doomed, and the season is a failure, and fire Shanny, etc.

We'd all like to think we're supportive of this rebuilding effort and that we'll be here when times get rough and this team loses games or whatever, but the reality is there are going to be people on this and other 'Skins boards that are going to lose it if things go bad this season.

Personally I don't think we'll be that bad, we're putting in a good cast on both sides of the ball, but we are rolling with an unknown at quarterback. I think we'll be in a lot of close games this year, but our record will end up either a couple games below .500 or maybe a game or two above it depending on how Beck performs.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by NLC1054

There's a level of bullshit in this fanbase that's unbelievable.

After years of having the "win now" mentality, and losing, the team is finally rebuilding, finally adding team first players instead of me first players, has dynamic young players, is making smart free agent signings and spending money wisely, has completely removed Dan Snyder from football operations...they're pretty much doing everything the fanbase has been demanding for years...

...And NOW is the time when people say they're tapping out and don't want to show up and support the team?

Christ...

But can you really blame a fan base for taking a wait and see approach at this point? We've been duped by Spurrier, Cerrato, Dan, Zorn, and a slew of ridiculous trades/signings over the past decade+.

I'll cheer like hell for the Redskins every Sunday for the rest of my life. But until they start winning again, that cheering will take place on my couch instead of a stadium seat. And you won't catch me at training camp or dropping lots of $$ on merchandise either.

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by GMScud

But can you really blame a fan base for taking a wait and see approach at this point? We've been duped by Spurrier, Cerrato, Dan, Zorn, and a slew of ridiculous trades/signings over the past decade+.

I'll cheer like hell for the Redskins every Sunday for the rest of my life. But until they start winning again, that cheering will take place on my couch instead of a stadium seat. And you won't catch me at training camp or dropping lots of $$ on merchandise either.

it's nice to know i'm not always alone, although i did re-up my season tix, but i used to have 11 now down to 4

[irish]

Originally Posted by GMScud

But can you really blame a fan base for taking a wait and see approach at this point? We've been duped by Spurrier, Cerrato, Dan, Zorn, and a slew of ridiculous trades/signings over the past decade+.

I'll cheer like hell for the Redskins every Sunday for the rest of my life. But until they start winning again, that cheering will take place on my couch instead of a stadium seat. And you won't catch me at training camp or dropping lots of $$ on merchandise either.

I couldnt agree more. Lets face it, its tough to get excited about another 6-10 to 8-8 season with no playoffs. Frankly I'm surprised fans showed as much interest for as long as they did.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

TC attendance and demand for tix have a lot more to do with the lockout and economy than Dan Snyder. Another PFT BS article trashing the Skins, it's fun and gets web-hits.....F PFT.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

TC attendance and demand for tix have a lot more to do with the lockout and economy than Dan Snyder. Another PFT BS article trashing the Skins, it's fun and gets web-hits.....F PFT.

agree. PFT = garbage

[MTK]

Originally Posted by NLC1054

There's a level of bullshit in this fanbase that's unbelievable.

After years of having the "win now" mentality, and losing, the team is finally rebuilding, finally adding team first players instead of me first players, has dynamic young players, is making smart free agent signings and spending money wisely, has completely removed Dan Snyder from football operations...they're pretty much doing everything the fanbase has been demanding for years...

...And NOW is the time when people say they're tapping out and don't want to show up and support the team?

Christ...

If we had signed a few big names I bet attendance would be higher.

I agree, totally lame.

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by NLC1054

There's a level of bullshit in this fanbase that's unbelievable.

After years of having the "win now" mentality, and losing, the team is finally rebuilding, finally adding team first players instead of me first players, has dynamic young players, is making smart free agent signings and spending money wisely, has completely removed Dan Snyder from football operations...they're pretty much doing everything the fanbase has been demanding for years...

...And NOW is the time when people say they're tapping out and don't want to show up and support the team?

Christ...

so we wave our magic wand and pretend everything is ok? it's not, this team is rebuilding and not good, it will be fun for most of us on the board to watch the games this year to see the development of all the young players, but do you really think this is the way most fans view the team? most people are fed up and want to see actually change and improvement before they go all in yet again.

that said do i think it has anything to do with the turnout at tc? not really, the main reason why people are not there have alreay been stated for the most part, lockout, heat, not enough time to make plans and so on. but i think there are two other issues that haven't been stated yet.

one being the fact that they aren't in full pads yet, who the hell wants to drive all the way out there to watch guys to cardio and learn formations? if i go out there i wanna see playters in pads hitting each other, seeing who has it and who doesn't

two the FA haven't shown up yet, who the hell would wanna watch the redskins without sexy rexy?