Predict teams/players that will underperform under new steroid testing program

[Redskin Jim]

Originally Posted by alaskaN8

no team or player will suffer from steroid testing. they players will just take something that is not illegal yet. just like this last year when ray lewis , roy williiams , and i am sure other people were taking deer antler velvet, the league made them stop, then made it a banned substance. they will find a new source for hgh or steriods and until someone comes up with a test to detect it ,thats what they will use.

This is the way it HAS BEEN FOR YEARS. The players have been one step ahead of the tests..

[Chico23231]

Ed Hochuli

[cpayne5]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Ed Hochuli

Nice.

[Shadowbyte]

Originally Posted by chico23231

ed hochuli

lol qft!

[sportscurmudgeon]

Originally Posted by wilsowilso

I have always had my doubts about certain players and teams in this league and I am willing to bet one or two teams and a whole bunch of players are going to come crashing back to earth now that they can't cheat.

For example:

James Harrison - No way you go from a complete nobody to defensive MVP. No Way.

Clay Matthews - I can give like ten reasons why I think this guy cheats.

Pittsburgh Steelers - Don't believe that a team can sustain this level of physical freak dominance for such a sustained period of time. Solid players arrive on this team and in three years they are superior athletes. Over and over.

Baltimore Ravens - See above

New York Giants - See above

Disclaimer: These are just predictions and opinions.

It is also my opinion that a ton of NFL players have been cheating for a long long time.

Just curious here - - would any current Redskins' players be ones who have been "cheating for a long, long time"?

Or is "cheating" isolated to other teams?

If the Skins have any "cheaters" in your view, would you care to name some names?

[wilsowilso]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Just curious here - - would any current Redskins' players be ones who have been "cheating for a long, long time"?

Or is "cheating" isolated to other teams?

If the Skins have any "cheaters" in your view, would you care to name some names?

I have no doubt there are current players on every NFL team that have been using HGH or something similar. EVERY SINGLE TEAM IN THE NFL HAS CHEATERS ON IT.

The testing program that was in place was a complete JOKE.

Adam Archuleta was a very very suspect NFL player. I would bet a significant amount of money that he was a cheater.

I don't need a positive test to know for a fact that Barry Bonds was a massive steroid user.

He quite literally changed his body type in a way that is not humanly possible without a heavy dose of juice. His HR production skyrocketed in direct contrast to all evidence that his power numbers should be going in the opposite direction.

I could be wrong about all of my predictions.

This is all supposition and conjecture and I freely acknowledge that.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

If the Skins have any "cheaters" in your view, would you care to name some names?

[Ruhskins]

I don't get why people are getting their panties in a bunch about this, after all this is all speculation (like most of the stuff we talk about here). Personally, I would hate to see football to turn into baseball, and in a way I'm glad that the NFL is implementing these types of tests. Given what has happened with baseball (and other sports) I think the public is always wondering in their back of their mind whether X-player is juicing. This will definitely cause a lot of debate in the upcoming season.

[wilsowilso]

Anthony Gonzalez thinks lots and lots of players are using HGH - Shutdown Corner - NFL*Blog - Yahoo! Sports

It's just one current NFL players opinion, but he sums it up pretty nicely.

He has seen many of these players up close in college and now they are in the NFL and they are freakin enormous and something doesn't add up.

No kidding.

Maybe it's the magic NFL weight rooms?

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by wilsowilso

I have always had my doubts about certain players and teams in this league and I am willing to bet one or two teams and a whole bunch of players are going to come crashing back to earth now that they can't cheat.

For example:

James Harrison - No way you go from a complete nobody to defensive MVP. No Way.

Clay Matthews - I can give like ten reasons why I think this guy cheats.

Pittsburgh Steelers - Don't believe that a team can sustain this level of physical freak dominance for such a sustained period of time. Solid players arrive on this team and in three years they are superior athletes. Over and over.

Baltimore Ravens - See above

New York Giants - See above

Disclaimer: These are just predictions and opinions.

It is also my opinion that a ton of NFL players have been cheating for a long long time.

.......yeah,ya did.

[wilsowilso]

Originally Posted by Giantone

.......yeah,ya did.

If by including the Giants on my list you somehow feel obligated to translate my OP I guess that's ok.

Oh yeah.

Another player.

Justin Tuck. I watched him a ton in college.

THAT'S NOT THE SAME PERSON.

[hooskins]

Giantone, where does he say that all players are cheating? He said "a lot". He also said in big bold text that it's an opinion.

No need to get upset.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Giantone, where does he say that all players are cheating? He said "a lot". He also said in big bold text that it's an opinion.

No need to get upset.

Not upset,read #16.find where I said he said .I said "implied"

IMPLIED= understood without being said
= to have as a logical consequence
= to give to understand,by implication

By just saying ..The Giants or the Ravens without names he has ....implicated the whole team.I fall in the group that really doesn't care but to think you can't get that big without it is very wrong.
I was lucky to play the game to a decent level and I saw guys who have and have'nt used ...things.
In 1 summer before college I ran ,lifted, ate 5 meals (good ones) a day and drank about 2 to 3 protein shakes a day,went from 215 to 255(a 36in waist) to start college ball.....with in 30 days was back down to 220-225.

[Stuck in TX]

Hey its a witch hunt thread! I say we put everyone we think is using HGH in a giant burlap sack filled with rocks, then toss it in the Chesapeake Bay. If they don't drown to death, they are using HGH......

Are people seriously arguing about this? Hey I have an idea: Lets just wait for the testing and there will be no need for arguing so passionately on circumstantial nonsense all because someone "wasn't big and now is." The NFL is full of freaks on a physical level. MUCH more than baseball. It could be anyone using HGH and it wouldn't surprise me. Is it September 8th yet? sheeeeeesh

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Stuck in TX

It could be anyone using HGH and it wouldn't surprise me.

Truth.


I've said this many times.