Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Rams)

[Chief X_Phackter]

Again, agree with all of the above, although I couldn't watch the game. Glad you threw in BB this week. He could lose his job to Buchanan

I'll add in the nimwits who are calling for Beck too.

I hope that everyone that thought the Skins would dominate this game have now come back down to earth. The Rams aren't very good, as expected, but the Skins are not a complete team either. Long way for this offense to go - including the play caller. Special teams, except for the punt team (SAV) is not too good either. If it wasn't for our D, this team could easily be 1-3. Good news is Detroit and SF came back and beat Dallas and Philly...LMAO.

[vallin21]

Banks: 2nd straight bad game. KR'S aren't even getting to the 20, and muffed a Punt. Don't know whats going on.

Agree w/ SS. Fox Sports was bad. The camera man was fooled on play actions, wierd camera angels,short blackouts, and late getting out of breaks.

Penalties: Most of them were BS. Anytime a Punt Returner doesn't fair catch (TWICE), you're asking to get hit. Not worried about those. In general, the NFL is becoming a soft league. If it looks bad, It's gonna be a flag.

Rex Grossman: Delay of Game is on Grossman, and that can't happen. Hightower and Moss dropped catchable 3rd down passes, but that last pick cannot happen against a good team. Rams didn't take advantage, but those picks (and near ones) you can't have.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by vallin21

Banks: 2nd straight bad game. KR'S aren't even getting to the 20, and muffed a Punt. Don't know whats going on.

Agree w/ SS. Fox Sports was bad. The camera man was fooled on play actions, wierd camera angels,short blackouts, and late getting out of breaks.

Penalties: Most of them were BS. Anytime a Punt Returner doesn't fair catch (TWICE), you're asking to get hit. Not worried about those. In general, the NFL is becoming a soft league. If it looks bad, It's gonna be a flag.

Rex Grossman: Delay of Game is on Grossman, and that can't happen. Hightower and Moss dropped catchable 3rd down passes, but that last pick cannot happen against a good team. Rams didn't take advantage, but those picks (and near ones) you can't have.

There were a couple of BS penalties. The false start against J. Brown was BS, so was the personal foul against Hall.

[Daseal]

Originally Posted by vallin21

Penalties: Most of them were BS. Anytime a Punt Returner doesn't fair catch (TWICE), you're asking to get hit. Not worried about those. In general, the NFL is becoming a soft league. If it looks bad, It's gonna be a flag.

I agree with this. The punt returner has one way to defend himself. It's called a fair catch.

[mooby]

Rex: As has been said, for 3 quarters today he did just enough to win. But he had a bad 4th, what with the bad throws, 1 for a pick and 1 on third down. But when it was all said and done he had another average day today and his bad spots came in critical moments. I don't think a qb change will solve anything but he's certainly not playing consistent yet. We're just going to have to put up with this all season, and hopefully next year we'll have our franchise quarterback.

Special teams, minus Gano and Rocca. Perry Riley and Niles Paul, both of them need to learn you have to give the returner the opportunity to field the ball before you light him up. We know they're going to call the defenseless receiver this year if you don't give them the opportunity, and both of them were just too eager to light the guy up. Love the enthusiasm but they gotta slow their role a little bit to give the returner time to catch him, then they can light him up all they want.

Also concerning special teams, Brandon Banks. I think partial blame needs to go to our special teams for their ineffective blocking, but Banks needs to know when it's time to return it and when it's time to fair catch it. He's had a serious lack of big plays this season, and it minimizes his value considering that's all he brings to the table.

Also we really shot ourselves in the foot with all the penalties today. I know the fans are going to jump on D.Hall for his penalty down in our red zone, but that was another bad call by the refs. Both D.Hall and the Rams wideout were playing like they both thought the Rams' wideout didn't step out of bounds, so what was D.Hall supposed to do? Just let him go? Come on refs, that one's not on D.Hall. But the bad calls by the refs went both ways today, especially on the punt that they downed inside our 5 yard line that was called a touchback. But our sloppy play today definitely could've cost us.

Tim Hightower: Don't wanna pile on too much here, but given the way Torain really came out and seized his opportunity today the more inneffective he is running the ball the less PT he's gonna see.

And finally, the playcalling. Specifically, the 0 blitz on defense and the bootlegging on offense. We get it, you like to run the bootleg Kyle S. But it's not effective when you keep running it all the time. And the 0 blitz has been effective, except when it's obvious it's coming on 3rd down. We shied away from it at the end of the game today, but like the bootleg it's only useful in limited application.

[saden1]

Someone should tell Kyle Rex can't win games for you by throwing the ball...this is specially true when you have the lead.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by saden1

Someone should tell Kyle Rex can't win games for you by throwing the ball...this is specially true when you have the lead.

I've been trying, but no one at Redskins Park seems to be lurking.

[rbanerjee23]

Originally Posted by saden1

Someone should tell Kyle Rex can't win games for you by throwing the ball...this is specially true when you have the lead.

This. Kyle doesn't get it, QBs aren't interchangeable -- Rex is not good enough to win the game for you (or even come through in clutch situations). You can't put the game in his hands, he'll kind of, sort of be able to manage it but that's it.

[over the mountain]

i personally dont trust rex' decision making on 3rd downs. i think it was 3rd down with 6:23 or so to go in the second quarter, rex got some pressure scrambled alil bit and threw a ball to moss who was heavily covered barely missing an int. even if moss had caught it, it was short of the 1st down marker.

i know rex said he threw some balls away on the 1st half and that contributed to his low completion percentage but on 3rd down i think he forces things, even if its to a guy double covered short of the 1st down marker . .

also this is 2 weeks in a row he threw a ball right to a linebacker who had dropped back into covergae (lee last week). he said on his 2nd pick today that they did a staple PA pass and the mike lb bit hard and even though the mike lb hit hard he has to be aware that the mike lb could be fast enough to get back but still, 2 weeks in a row he doesnt account for a lb dropping back

also should he say what plays are a staple of our offense? its only week 4. reminds me of zorn where he would lay out his total thinking and philosophy on specific plays during his postgame the first few games he was here

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

i personally dont trust rex' decision making on 3rd downs. i think it was 3rd down with 6:23 or so to go in the second quarter, rex got some pressure scrambled alil bit and threw a ball to moss who was heavily covered barely missing an int. even if moss had caught it, it was short of the 1st down marker.

i know rex said he threw some balls away on the 1st half and that contributed to his low completion percentage but on 3rd down i think he forces things, even if its to a guy double covered short of the 1st down marker . .

also this is 2 weeks in a row he threw a ball right to a linebacker who had dropped back into covergae (lee last week). he said on his 2nd pick today that they did a staple PA pass and the mike lb bit hard and even though the mike lb hit hard he has to be aware that the mike lb could be fast enough to get back but still, 2 weeks in a row he doesnt account for a lb dropping back

also should he say what plays are a staple of our offense? its only week 4. reminds me of zorn where he would lay out his total thinking and philosophy on specific plays during his postgame the first few games he was here

I think I know the play you're talking about on that Moss pass, though I thought it was later in the game. And yeah I'm not sure what he was thinking there

[skinsfaninok]

Rex and KS

[TenandSix:Unacceptable]

I'm still pissed Spags didn't want the Redskins gig. What a terrific head coach he's turned out to be. Just another missed opportunity by our moribund franchise.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by TenandSix:Unacceptable

I'm still pissed Spags didn't want the Redskins gig. What a terrific head coach he's turned out to be. Just another missed opportunity by our moribund franchise.

Really? I'm not. We took one lame duck head coach over another. Hard to be mad about it considering we got our revenge today.

[Dirtbag59]

@Russellmania980
Chris Russell
Mike Shanahan when asked if Ryan Torain will be starter vs Philly said "This will be fun. I'll play this game with you guys all week."

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

@Russellmania980
Chris Russell
Mike Shanahan when asked if Ryan Torain will be starter vs Philly said "This will be fun. I'll play this game with you guys all week."

I think it should be obvious, but we all know Shanny loves to play games with the media. Hard to see us not going with Torain considering his great day today combined with the fact he had an excellent game in our first game against Philly last year.