2012 QB Class

GusFrerotte · 10-19-2011, 11:56 PM

I rather see us go for Tannhill or Barkely. Isn't the Wisconsin QB a senior? I like RGIII, but I want to see him play the bigger boys before I want him on the Skins. Outside of Oklahoma, OSU, and Tex A&M, the Big 12 sucks as bad as the Big Ten this season. To be honest from what I have witnessed, I rather get the kid from Wisconsin over RGIII.

Lotus · 10-19-2011, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Big C

not sold on landry jones as an elite prospect. like i said RGIII is my favorite and i think he would fit perfectly in our system. accurate, a leader, and extremely mobile. plus he just keeps getting better. kellen moore would be good too, regardless of arm strength issues. hes smart, reads the game well, is extremely accurate, a winner, and has a quick release.

tannehill is a good shout, but i dont know about top 3.

Why not Landry Jones?

Dirtbag59 · 10-20-2011, 12:46 AM

What's with Tannhill? I wouldn't mind him in on the second or third day but QB's with such little experience don't usually fare well at the NFL level. Remember this is a guy that spent the first 30 games of his college career playing receiver.

Dirtbag59 · 10-20-2011, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Boise State's Kellen Moore is as imposing as a grocery - 10.24.11 - SI Vault

Thank you. I've been looking for an opinion from a big name scout. Mostly everything else I've heard has been from Bleacher Report types.

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ESPN draft analyst Mel Kiper Jr. says Moore is "at best, a late-round pick." The scout quoted earlier, a Moore fan, ticked off his two most commonly cited shortcomings: size and arm strength. On the subject of size, it wasn't so much Moore's height that concerned him as his lack of bulk. The scout wonders if the quarterback, at 191 pounds, can handle the pummeling he'd take in the league.

Granted Kiper has been wrong before but a big part of his research comes from conversations with NFL scouts so I have to imagine that that grade for Moore is rooted partly in how he is viewed by NFL front office personnel.

Bucket · 10-20-2011, 04:06 AM

I really think Kellen Moore is the best option for us to draft. He plays under center, and sells a great PA. He's highly accurate, and is a proven winner

mlmdub130 · 10-20-2011, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Bucket

I really think Kellen Moore is the best option for us to draft. He plays under center, and sells a great PA. He's highly accurate, and is a proven winner

only seen a limited amount of him this year but his acuracy is amazing from what i have seen. i don't think he will slip as far back in thee draft as people think, i could easily see him going in the 3rd or 4th. kid has a hell of an arm Kellen Moore Stats, News, Videos, Pictures, Bio - Boise State Broncos - ESPN

#56fanatic · 10-20-2011, 07:58 AM

No one has mentioned the kid from Michigan St. Curt Cousins has a strong arm has been playing in a pro type system and can make ALL the throws. He isn't have a spectacular year this year, but he really isn't surrounded by a great team and suspect Oline. I have a feeling when the season is over and the combine starts he will quickly move up to the top 3 QB's in the draft.

If he is coming out. Not sure if he is a junior or senior

jbcjr14 · 10-20-2011, 08:28 AM

Rumor has it that RG III might stay another year attending law school. This dude is "super smart" (yes, I quoted Gibbs) and is an amazing talent. I have seen him play twice in person vs. Texas and he is a freak. I too think he would fit nicely in the Shanny system.

redsk1 · 10-20-2011, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

I rather see us go for Tannhill or Barkely. Isn't the Wisconsin QB a senior? I like RGIII, but I want to see him play the bigger boys before I want him on the Skins. Outside of Oklahoma, OSU, and Tex A&M, the Big 12 sucks as bad as the Big Ten this season. To be honest from what I have witnessed, I rather get the kid from Wisconsin over RGIII.

Russell Wilson is a senior. He wants to play in the NFL (was drafted to play baseball too). I wouldn't count him out. I don't think he's very tall which will turn alot of scouts off. We'll see. Richmond guy though.

celts32 · 10-20-2011, 10:52 AM

I have not looked into it enough to know yet which guy I like, but what I do know is that Shanny & Allen better be prepared to trade up to secure their guy this year. There is no more time to wait around hoping our franchise QB falls into our laps...

SmootSmack · 10-20-2011, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

My bad ESPN for some reason list him as a Senior on his player card. On the other hand I did not know this bit of trivia.

Is it fate?

He is a Senior, but he also has one more year of eligibility left. So if you want to call him a redshirt junior I suppose that's fine too.

Lotus · 10-20-2011, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by celts32

I have not looked into it enough to know yet which guy I like, but what I do know is that Shanny & Allen better be prepared to trade up to secure their guy this year. There is no more time to wait around hoping our franchise QB falls into our laps...

You have made this argument before. And you are absolutely right. We need to go all-in on a top-notch signal caller, price be damned.

CultBrennan59 · 10-20-2011, 01:30 PM

I have been hyping up Kellen Moore since last year. I think he could play in the pro's, but like Kiper said before, Ty Detmer, Colt Brennan, Ken Dorsey (?), they were all good college QB's and flopped in the NFL. I could easily see Kellen being the next Kurt Warner as much as I could see him being the next Ty Detmer.

Tale of the Tape: Breaking Down Kellen Moore's Future as an NFL Quarterback | Bleacher Report

I've read a lot of articles on this. I just think that when its all said and done, whether Shanahan/Allen like him or not, they're not gonna draft him and him only as the next starting Skins QB. I would see them drafting a Nick Foles/Tannehill in the first and Kellen in the 5th type scenario, but I couldn't see us doing a G/MLB/CB 1st, G/MLB/CB 2nd, Kellen 3rd type scenario...Although I would.

SmootSmack · 10-20-2011, 01:44 PM

I'm all for getting 2 QBs in next year's draft.

We had a few of those guys come in a few months ago and they ran some drills. If the game was all about passing drills, I'd probably take Nick Foles 10 out of 10 times. But when he's in an actual game, I'm just not overly impressed.

Chico23231 · 10-20-2011, 01:50 PM

Getting Barkley and Kellen would be best case scenario for the Skins.

10-19-2011, 11:56 PM	#16
GusFrerotte Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Detroit area Posts: 4,153	Re: 2012 QB Class I rather see us go for Tannhill or Barkely. Isn't the Wisconsin QB a senior? I like RGIII, but I want to see him play the bigger boys before I want him on the Skins. Outside of Oklahoma, OSU, and Tex A&M, the Big 12 sucks as bad as the Big Ten this season. To be honest from what I have witnessed, I rather get the kid from Wisconsin over RGIII.

10-20-2011, 12:46 AM	#18
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 40 Posts: 14,750	Re: 2012 QB Class What's with Tannhill? I wouldn't mind him in on the second or third day but QB's with such little experience don't usually fare well at the NFL level. Remember this is a guy that spent the first 30 games of his college career playing receiver. __________________ "It's nice to be important, but its more important to be nice." - Scooter "I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now." - FRPLG

10-20-2011, 04:06 AM	#20
Bucket Playmaker Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Martinsburg, WV Posts: 3,881	Re: 2012 QB Class I really think Kellen Moore is the best option for us to draft. He plays under center, and sells a great PA. He's highly accurate, and is a proven winner __________________ I need something to cheer about Redskin Fan since '88 Be friends on Twitter! @thecasualhero

10-20-2011, 07:58 AM	#22
#56fanatic The Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Charlotte NC Age: 51 Posts: 1,801	Re: 2012 QB Class No one has mentioned the kid from Michigan St. Curt Cousins has a strong arm has been playing in a pro type system and can make ALL the throws. He isn't have a spectacular year this year, but he really isn't surrounded by a great team and suspect Oline. I have a feeling when the season is over and the combine starts he will quickly move up to the top 3 QB's in the draft. If he is coming out. Not sure if he is a junior or senior

10-20-2011, 08:28 AM	#23
jbcjr14 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Austin, Texas Age: 55 Posts: 2,015	Re: 2012 QB Class Rumor has it that RG III might stay another year attending law school. This dude is "super smart" (yes, I quoted Gibbs) and is an amazing talent. I have seen him play twice in person vs. Texas and he is a freak. I too think he would fit nicely in the Shanny system. __________________ "Work Harder: millions on welfare are counting on you" - Obama 2009 address to Congress.

10-20-2011, 10:52 AM	#25
celts32 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hackettstown NJ Age: 54 Posts: 2,665	Re: 2012 QB Class I have not looked into it enough to know yet which guy I like, but what I do know is that Shanny & Allen better be prepared to trade up to secure their guy this year. There is no more time to wait around hoping our franchise QB falls into our laps... __________________ Section 116 Row 19 “Goal line, goal line. I-left, tight wing, 70 chip on white.” www.facebook.com/HackettstownBeerClub

10-20-2011, 01:30 PM	#28
CultBrennan59 Pro Bowl Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 6,526	Re: 2012 QB Class I have been hyping up Kellen Moore since last year. I think he could play in the pro's, but like Kiper said before, Ty Detmer, Colt Brennan, Ken Dorsey (?), they were all good college QB's and flopped in the NFL. I could easily see Kellen being the next Kurt Warner as much as I could see him being the next Ty Detmer. Tale of the Tape: Breaking Down Kellen Moore's Future as an NFL Quarterback \| Bleacher Report I've read a lot of articles on this. I just think that when its all said and done, whether Shanahan/Allen like him or not, they're not gonna draft him and him only as the next starting Skins QB. I would see them drafting a Nick Foles/Tannehill in the first and Kellen in the 5th type scenario, but I couldn't see us doing a G/MLB/CB 1st, G/MLB/CB 2nd, Kellen 3rd type scenario...Although I would. __________________ "Anyones better than Madieu Williams"

10-20-2011, 01:44 PM	#29
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: 2012 QB Class I'm all for getting 2 QBs in next year's draft. We had a few of those guys come in a few months ago and they ran some drills. If the game was all about passing drills, I'd probably take Nick Foles 10 out of 10 times. But when he's in an actual game, I'm just not overly impressed. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

10-20-2011, 01:50 PM	#30
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 35,022	Re: 2012 QB Class Getting Barkley and Kellen would be best case scenario for the Skins. __________________ My pronouns: King/Your ruler He Gets Us

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