Heisman winner to give defense another try

rdsknfn2003 · 01-26-2005, 04:06 PM

What I don't understand is why the Chiefs would want him in the first place when the QB they have now is a good QB. Now if thier dfence would do something

MTK · 01-26-2005, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by rdsknfn2003

What I don't understand is why the Chiefs would want him in the first place when the QB they have now is a good QB. Now if thier dfence would do something

He's not a QB anymore, he's converted to safety.

TheMalcolmConnection · 01-26-2005, 04:26 PM

Nobody welcomed me... sniffle.

rdsknfn2003 · 01-26-2005, 04:31 PM

Ok well welcome back then.
but anyway I honestly didnt know he switched sides. damn reciever QB now saftey. oh hell he isnt going to play that pos he couldnt stand gettin hit being a wr. Now saftey you have got to be kidding me. Damn that is to funny

TheMalcolmConnection · 01-26-2005, 08:04 PM

"Hey guys, look at me, I can play Safety, I promise! Come on coach, just put me in!!"

What is this, 6th grade?! He's going to have to get over the fact he just isn't going to cut it in the NFL.

sportscurmudgeon · 01-26-2005, 09:35 PM

Matty:

I might argue that signing Carrier was far worse than bringing Couch in for a look. There is a low probability that Couch will make it as a safety; I grant you that.

Carrier on the other hand was a "proven player" and what he had actually "proven" was that he was through/finished/kaput/over/done/take your pick here. There was really no chance he would be a significant help to a decent team at that point of his career.

I am not saying that Couch is even part of the answer for the Chiefs' miserable defense; he isn't. But he is a zero cost option. He's sort of like the guys that the Redskins signed just after the season was over and they could expand the roster. Most of them are longshots to do anything more than act as cannon-fodder for special teams' practices in training camp. But they don't cost anything...

TheMalcolmConnection · 01-26-2005, 09:36 PM

All pawns in Gibbs' twisted game... muahahahaha.

SKINSnCANES · 01-26-2005, 10:42 PM

welcome anyone that wasnt properly greeted.

Ya never know, mabye he will be a decent cover safety. Doesnt hurt to try.

SmootSmack · 01-26-2005, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SKINSnCANES

welcome anyone that wasnt properly greeted.

Ya never know, mabye he will be a decent cover safety. Doesnt hurt to try.

But havent they already tried him at safety in St. Louis and Green Bay?

rdsknfn2003 · 01-27-2005, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by smootsmack

But havent they already tried him at safety in St. Louis and Green Bay?

I could of sworn the he played WR. fo ST. L, and greenbay I thought he was a backup QB that why he came back in but I cant remember. Since that he has droped out so many times. That I have forgotten. Whats his name again?

Daseal · 01-26-2005, 11:08 PM

Couch was a hell of a talent coming out of college, and how many players do you think may have failed in the NFL if they weren't put in the situation they fell into? Tom Brady? Kurt Warner? Both QBs. Both put into perhaps the greatest situations ever. Tom Brady on a strong offense, with a great defense. Kurt Warner had the ability to lob a ball 40 yards, Bruce or Holt would run under it.

I feel that Couch could start for KC starting next season, at safety. Probability? .05%
He's on a team that certainly has the offense to win, in turn making him look better. You play the Cheifs, you could get down quick, causing lots of passes, meaning lots of chances to INT. This is obvious to most everyone. If he's even close to the athelete he used to be, then he has a shot to make it. As far as mentally, that's yet to be seen. I personally believe Ryan Leaf may have been a good QB in the NFL if he were a bit older/mature when he came in. I think physically he was ready, mentally he fell apart. (that won't cause any riots here...)

SmootSmack · 01-26-2005, 11:12 PM

slightly off topic for a moment, but in other QB news-I hear that Gibran Hamdan has signed with the Seahawks

SmootSmack · 01-27-2005, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by smootsmack

slightly off topic for a moment, but in other QB news-I hear that Gibran Hamdan has signed with the Seahawks

I guess he'll be playing some arena football first

http://www.laavengers.com/pressreleases.php?id=259

JudgeJebus · 01-28-2005, 10:42 AM

Can someone explain to me why this guy (Crouch) wasn't considered an NFL prospect at QB even though he had just won the Heisman at that position? This all happened during a couple of years when I wasn't able to follow the NFL too closely.

MTK · 01-28-2005, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JudgeJebus

Can someone explain to me why this guy (Crouch) wasn't considered an NFL prospect at QB even though he had just won the Heisman at that position? This all happened during a couple of years when I wasn't able to follow the NFL too closely.

He was never much of a passer in college, he was a great athelete playing QB. He did his damage with his legs.

01-26-2005, 04:26 PM	#3
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,264	Nobody welcomed me... sniffle. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

01-26-2005, 08:04 PM	#5
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,264	"Hey guys, look at me, I can play Safety, I promise! Come on coach, just put me in!!" What is this, 6th grade?! He's going to have to get over the fact he just isn't going to cut it in the NFL. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

01-26-2005, 09:35 PM	#6
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	Matty: I might argue that signing Carrier was far worse than bringing Couch in for a look. There is a low probability that Couch will make it as a safety; I grant you that. Carrier on the other hand was a "proven player" and what he had actually "proven" was that he was through/finished/kaput/over/done/take your pick here. There was really no chance he would be a significant help to a decent team at that point of his career. I am not saying that Couch is even part of the answer for the Chiefs' miserable defense; he isn't. But he is a zero cost option. He's sort of like the guys that the Redskins signed just after the season was over and they could expand the roster. Most of them are longshots to do anything more than act as cannon-fodder for special teams' practices in training camp. But they don't cost anything... __________________ The Sports Curmudgeon www.sportscurmudgeon.com But don't get me wrong, I love sports...

01-26-2005, 09:36 PM	#7
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,264	All pawns in Gibbs' twisted game... muahahahaha. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

01-26-2005, 10:42 PM	#8
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 43 Posts: 5,455	welcome anyone that wasnt properly greeted. Ya never know, mabye he will be a decent cover safety. Doesnt hurt to try. __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

01-26-2005, 04:06 PM	#1
rdsknfn2003 Camp Scrub Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Georgia Age: 51 Posts: 72	What I don't understand is why the Chiefs would want him in the first place when the QB they have now is a good QB. Now if thier dfence would do something

01-26-2005, 04:31 PM	#4
rdsknfn2003 Camp Scrub Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Georgia Age: 51 Posts: 72	Ok well welcome back then. but anyway I honestly didnt know he switched sides. damn reciever QB now saftey. oh hell he isnt going to play that pos he couldnt stand gettin hit being a wr. Now saftey you have got to be kidding me. Damn that is to funny

01-26-2005, 11:08 PM	#11
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	Couch was a hell of a talent coming out of college, and how many players do you think may have failed in the NFL if they weren't put in the situation they fell into? Tom Brady? Kurt Warner? Both QBs. Both put into perhaps the greatest situations ever. Tom Brady on a strong offense, with a great defense. Kurt Warner had the ability to lob a ball 40 yards, Bruce or Holt would run under it. I feel that Couch could start for KC starting next season, at safety. Probability? .05% He's on a team that certainly has the offense to win, in turn making him look better. You play the Cheifs, you could get down quick, causing lots of passes, meaning lots of chances to INT. This is obvious to most everyone. If he's even close to the athelete he used to be, then he has a shot to make it. As far as mentally, that's yet to be seen. I personally believe Ryan Leaf may have been a good QB in the NFL if he were a bit older/mature when he came in. I think physically he was ready, mentally he fell apart. (that won't cause any riots here...)

01-26-2005, 11:12 PM	#12
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	slightly off topic for a moment, but in other QB news-I hear that Gibran Hamdan has signed with the Seahawks __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

01-28-2005, 10:42 AM	#14
JudgeJebus Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Washington, D.C. Posts: 85	Can someone explain to me why this guy (Crouch) wasn't considered an NFL prospect at QB even though he had just won the Heisman at that position? This all happened during a couple of years when I wasn't able to follow the NFL too closely.

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