New helmet conatct rule/proposal...I agree with Emmit Smith.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

The rule proposed to ban leading with the crown of the helmet. Not banning the lowering of the shoulder

I've got no problem with that.

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I've got no problem with that.

Good luck enforcing that consistently.
When you lower your shoulder your head lowers at the same time unless you have a neck like Jim Carrey.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

Good luck enforcing that consistently.
When you lower your shoulder your head lowers at the same time unless you have a neck like Jim Carrey.

You can lower your shoulder and still keep your head up and away from the contact as much as possible.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

The rule proposed to ban leading with the crown of the helmet. Not banning the lowering of the shoulder

But how do you lower your shoulder w/out lowering your head?? ... going at full speed with a 250lbs LB trying to tackle you?

[Monkeydad]

There goes Alfred Morris' effectiveness...he runs everyone over.

[HailGreen28]

Do it. Players shouldn't lead WITH THE CROWN of their helmets on offense or defense. With the exception that if a ball carrier dives forward, he's fair game to helmet-to-helmet contact like today (no spearing/late hits/etc.). If he slides like a QB, he gets the same protection a QB does (maybe he does already).

And make "stiff arms" illegal too. In an era where defenders ability to tackle, or even interfere with a WR making a catch, are being nitpicked to death: RBs shouldn't have the right to facemask and punch defenders at will.

edit: Tried to clarify what I meant about when the ball carrier dives forward.

[Alvin Walton]

Maybe we should have Taylor Swift play all the safety and linebacker positions and she could proclaim that you wil never ever ever hit me with your helmet.

[FRPLG]

Jeff Fisher seems to think it is reasonable:

“The ballcarrier is still going to be permitted to lower his shoulder, and the head is also going to come down to protect the football,” Fisher said. “We’re not taking that part of the run out of the game. What we’re saying is, in space, one-on-one, head-up, we’re not going to allow you to load up and use the crown of your helmet. It’s an obvious thing.”

[MTK]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Jeff Fisher seems to think it is reasonable:

“The ballcarrier is still going to be permitted to lower his shoulder, and the head is also going to come down to protect the football,” Fisher said. “We’re not taking that part of the run out of the game. What we’re saying is, in space, one-on-one, head-up, we’re not going to allow you to load up and use the crown of your helmet. It’s an obvious thing.”

When it's explained like that it makes sense. They're not taking out lowering of the shoulder. Just can't use the helmet.

[skinsfan69]

The people on the competition committee, including that idiot John Mara, are all for this rule. It's utterly ridiculous. It has some legs to it and I think it has a chance of passing. 24/32 owners have to approve it and they want to eliminate all the concussions out of a violent sport. It's just so stupid.

[Evilgrin]

What happens if they flag it on a goal line run? I know what the intent is, but refs still would be determining what they consider to be space?

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by Evilgrin

What happens if they flag it on a goal line run? I know what the intent is, but refs still would be determining what they consider to be space?

Doesn't apply in the tackle box.

[skinsfan69]

So if a RB is out in the open, and he's going for the sideline and he wants to lower his head to get a few extra yards, or get a first down, he can't do it, and will get a PF. That's just not football to me.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

So if a RB is out in the open, and he's going for the sideline and he wants to lower his head to get a few extra yards, or get a first down, he can't do it, and will get a PF. That's just not football to me.

No he can't turn himself into a missile and use his helmet as a battering ram. He may use his shoulder or torso or whatever...just not his helmet....just like defenders can't either. Never made sense to me that defenders would get flagged repeatedly for it when ball-carriers didn't.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

No he can't turn himself into a missile and use his helmet as a battering ram. He may use his shoulder or torso or whatever...just not his helmet....just like defenders can't either. Never made sense to me that defenders would get flagged repeatedly for it when ball-carriers didn't.

Again, you can't do that w/out lowering your head.