Someone tell me why?

redwagonskins · 03-09-2005, 06:19 PM

In no way was I implying that Ramsey isn't our guy, in fact I believe he was set up to fail. After being the starter for a season, Gibbs came in and signed Brunelll to a HUGE deal, then gave Brunell the reins because he wasn't supposed to turn the ball over. When Patrick was finally put in, he was gun shy because he didn't want to turn the ball over. Hopefully, this season they tell him to make good decisons which may include letting it rip every once in a while.

drew54 · 03-09-2005, 05:47 PM

The guy over the middle will be Cooley and whoever else is our TE.

e16bball · 03-09-2005, 05:49 PM

I think most people would agree that there is something about the Patriots that can't be explained by looking at their team on paper. So simply comparing the names on our depth chart and theirs is really not effective. Their receivers clicked so well with Brady and each other, and each was so attuned to the offense that their lack of exceptional physical tools was not important. Our receivers have not had that for years, and will not have that this year, since they are just not used to playing with each other and within Gibbs's system. That is just another reason why continuity is so important.

RedskinRat · 03-09-2005, 06:06 PM

A major key to our offense this year will be unofficial training that Ramsey organizes. If he can get 3-5 WR's together for some sync time we'll see a remarkable difference.

BigSKINBauer · 03-09-2005, 08:43 PM

they are up to it my friend, compare brady w/ ramsey though. ramsey seems to get better then he was before and he is improving. also compare the o-lines the o-line is now better so they are up to it i think that if we had down field presense that our d is still good enough to take us to the promise land and G g g g g g g g g geeeee double ya will be taking us there.

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-09-2005, 10:26 PM

I love the way BigSKINBauer writes his posts. It's like I can imagine the words coming out of his mouth. LOL

And I do completely agree about McCants. I just can't wait to see the offense open up a bit. Personally, I don't want to see any more signings until the draft.

John Hasbrouck · 03-09-2005, 10:30 PM

HeyRedskin Pete- That is due to the great QB performances the Pats get

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-09-2005, 10:41 PM

I'm going to drop a bombshell and say that I feel that if he continues to develop, I think Ramsey will be just as good, if not better than Brady. Ramsey has a HELL of an arm, something that Brady doesn't really have.

SmootSmack · 03-09-2005, 10:48 PM

Does a possession guy need to be a big man necessarily? I mean I think a possession guy is someone who you can count on to catch the ball in traffic and get you 10 yards when you've got 3rd and 9.

A guy like Henry Ellard I thought of as a possesion receiver, and I see a lot of similarities in James Thrash.

SkinsRock · 03-11-2005, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by smootsmack

Does a possession guy need to be a big man necessarily? I mean I think a possession guy is someone who you can count on to catch the ball in traffic and get you 10 yards when you've got 3rd and 9.

A guy like Henry Ellard I thought of as a possesion receiver, and I see a lot of similarities in James Thrash.

True, but I think the big thing about a bigger guy is that he is (or should be) more durable going across the middle taking hits from bigger linebackers.

I'm my opinion, we already have the guy we need in McCants. In what he lacks in speed, he makes up by being big and physical, and most importantly, dependable when it comes to catching the ball. That said, I agree that Thrash could also fill that role also to an extent, but I think Dmac fits it better...plus Thrash is a special teams demon so you want to keep him somewhat fresh for that.

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-09-2005, 10:49 PM

I definitely agree. Thrash made some great returns on kicks this year. I don't see why he couldn't do the same after a pass.

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-09-2005, 10:50 PM

I think everyone just feels we need a "big guy". If you can catch the ball and run with it all the way down the field, who needs a beast to run people over? Typically you're either going to be A) REALLY big and strong or B) REALLY fast and it's rare to find someone who is both.

MTK · 03-11-2005, 11:35 AM

Moss has a very high % of his catches that go for 1st downs, so I don't think he can be classified as being strictly a big-play guy.

03-09-2005, 06:19 PM	#1
redwagonskins Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 685	Re: Someone tell me why? In no way was I implying that Ramsey isn't our guy, in fact I believe he was set up to fail. After being the starter for a season, Gibbs came in and signed Brunelll to a HUGE deal, then gave Brunell the reins because he wasn't supposed to turn the ball over. When Patrick was finally put in, he was gun shy because he didn't want to turn the ball over. Hopefully, this season they tell him to make good decisons which may include letting it rip every once in a while.

03-09-2005, 05:47 PM	#2
drew54 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: IOWA Age: 42 Posts: 1,324	Re: Someone tell me why? The guy over the middle will be Cooley and whoever else is our TE.

03-09-2005, 05:49 PM	#3
e16bball Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 163	Re: Someone tell me why? I think most people would agree that there is something about the Patriots that can't be explained by looking at their team on paper. So simply comparing the names on our depth chart and theirs is really not effective. Their receivers clicked so well with Brady and each other, and each was so attuned to the offense that their lack of exceptional physical tools was not important. Our receivers have not had that for years, and will not have that this year, since they are just not used to playing with each other and within Gibbs's system. That is just another reason why continuity is so important.

03-09-2005, 06:06 PM	#4
RedskinRat Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: I'm in LA, trick! Posts: 8,700	Re: Someone tell me why? A major key to our offense this year will be unofficial training that Ramsey organizes. If he can get 3-5 WR's together for some sync time we'll see a remarkable difference.

03-09-2005, 08:43 PM	#5
BigSKINBauer Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Washington, DC Age: 37 Posts: 5,688	Re: Someone tell me why? they are up to it my friend, compare brady w/ ramsey though. ramsey seems to get better then he was before and he is improving. also compare the o-lines the o-line is now better so they are up to it i think that if we had down field presense that our d is still good enough to take us to the promise land and G g g g g g g g g geeeee double ya will be taking us there.

03-09-2005, 10:26 PM	#6
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,264	Re: Someone tell me why? I love the way BigSKINBauer writes his posts. It's like I can imagine the words coming out of his mouth. LOL And I do completely agree about McCants. I just can't wait to see the offense open up a bit. Personally, I don't want to see any more signings until the draft. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-09-2005, 10:30 PM	#7
John Hasbrouck Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 180	Re: Someone tell me why? HeyRedskin Pete- That is due to the great QB performances the Pats get

03-09-2005, 10:41 PM	#8
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,264	Re: Someone tell me why? I'm going to drop a bombshell and say that I feel that if he continues to develop, I think Ramsey will be just as good, if not better than Brady. Ramsey has a HELL of an arm, something that Brady doesn't really have. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-09-2005, 10:48 PM	#9
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Someone tell me why? Does a possession guy need to be a big man necessarily? I mean I think a possession guy is someone who you can count on to catch the ball in traffic and get you 10 yards when you've got 3rd and 9. A guy like Henry Ellard I thought of as a possesion receiver, and I see a lot of similarities in James Thrash. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

03-09-2005, 10:49 PM	#11
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,264	Re: Someone tell me why? I definitely agree. Thrash made some great returns on kicks this year. I don't see why he couldn't do the same after a pass. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-09-2005, 10:50 PM	#12
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,264	Re: Someone tell me why? I think everyone just feels we need a "big guy". If you can catch the ball and run with it all the way down the field, who needs a beast to run people over? Typically you're either going to be A) REALLY big and strong or B) REALLY fast and it's rare to find someone who is both. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-11-2005, 11:35 AM	#13
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	Re: Someone tell me why? Moss has a very high % of his catches that go for 1st downs, so I don't think he can be classified as being strictly a big-play guy. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

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