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Redskins8588 · 03-25-2005, 01:57 AM

Solomom Wilcox is a dork and so is the other three monkeys that are on that Playbook show. At the end of the show they each give out an "attaboy" award, and on the one show they gave one to Brian Urlactater for the play where he ran down Portis and nearly ripped his head off with the face mask.

I am not an expert on anything but dont you think that is the wrong message to send out to young kids that could be watching the show? I mean they basicly praised the guy for commiting a very serious penalty, now thats the way to show young viewers how to play the linebacker position!!!

FRPLG · 03-25-2005, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Redskins8588

I am not an expert on anything but dont you think that is the wrong message to send out to young kids that could be watching the show? I mean they basicly praised the guy for commiting a very serious penalty, now thats the way to show young viewers how to play the linebacker position!!!

No kidding. I can't believe the NFL even let them do that with the way they stringently control the content and messages on that network. What an embarassment that group is if this really happened.

BigSKINBauer · 03-25-2005, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Redskins8588

Solomom Wilcox is a dork and so is the other three monkeys that are on that Playbook show. At the end of the show they each give out an "attaboy" award, and on the one show they gave one to Brian Urlactater for the play where he ran down Portis and nearly ripped his head off with the face mask.

I am not an expert on anything but dont you think that is the wrong message to send out to young kids that could be watching the show? I mean they basicly praised the guy for commiting a very serious penalty, now thats the way to show young viewers how to play the linebacker position!!!

i remember that and i was pissed it feels like the media doesn't like the skins but when we do good they love us. I know that is true for most teams but it just feels that it is worse with us. I remeber that first game there were signs of problems but that week we were going to playoffs in most of the analysts eyes.

FRPLG · 03-25-2005, 08:26 AM

I'd love to know what some these analysts would have done with the Coles situation? A lot of them are quick to criticize but have no realistic alternative solutions to offer. Guess that's why they are analysts and not coaches and GMs. I have quit listening to them about stuff like this. I will listen to specific player discussion because that is stuff I don't know but when it comes to management, team building and things of that nature most them are clueless. That's why guys like Mortenson of ESPN are valuable. He seems to at least listen to the league GMs and coaches and his opinions reflect what they say not what his unknowing eyes tell him. Usually.

Notice how this time of year Mortensen basically says nothing. He doesn't have any articles up recently and is never on ESPN. Its because this is the time of year for rampant speculation which isn't his business and ridiculous chatter.

56FAN · 03-25-2005, 09:24 AM

opinions are like backsides, everybody's got one. these guys are just slinging it from hip without any real in depth understanding of what the heck they are talking about. sometimes it just comes down to them likeing to hear themselves talk. coles had to go, showing his rear end the way he did like a little baby shows he's not reay to be the guy. with moss it reamins to be seen. but as you all have in one way or another said it is better to have a man who wants to be here than aman who doesn't.

MTK · 03-25-2005, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 56FAN

opinions are like backsides, everybody's got one.

And some of them stink more than others

56FAN · 03-25-2005, 09:27 AM

amen, and some of them penetrate walls, real pungent ya know ???!!!!

firstdown · 03-25-2005, 09:47 AM

How would he know if it was a bust before the season even starts. If he thinks the Redskins got a bad deal I would have to agree but our options were very few.

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-25-2005, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

How would he know if it was a bust before the season even starts. If he thinks the Redskins got a bad deal I would have to agree but our options were very few.

Most definitely. It was a lose-lose situation.

skinsguy · 03-25-2005, 11:26 AM

Talking about changing minds, I remember Jimmy Johnson saying he thought the game had passed Joe Gibbs by as well....the thing with Vermeil, Parcells, and Marty must had been an after thought. It's no secret that the media has hounded Joe Gibbs from day one, anybody who can't see that has been living under a rock this past season. The only ones I have noticed that have not given up faith in Gibbs are his ex-players and his coaching friends in the NFL that are closest to him.

Longtimefan · 03-25-2005, 12:17 PM

While there has been many varied opinions relative to the return of Joe Gibbs to the Redskins, for some odd reason we seem to always as a franchise fall victum to some form of irresponsible journalism in one venue or another.

Despite our 6-10 record last year I'm convinced of the fact Gibbs did as well as one could honestly expect having been away for 11 years and not knowing his personell to the extent he does now. I never thought it would be fair to Gibbs if we truly expected him to make the team an instant winner in one season. I have the utmost confidence in what Gibbs brings to this franchise and if we exhibit the faith, and patience we need he will get it done.

Forget all those nay-sayers. They all envy our potential for success. We will be winners in 05 and you can take that to the bank!!!

56FAN · 03-25-2005, 01:06 PM

soo much the sweeter when we hoist the lombardi trophy. break your teeth on this you bunch of nay sayers. he has a plan and will work out. time is the only ingredient to make this cake bake. and then into they'er collective faces.lol lol lol it will be sooooo
shhhhwweett!!!!!!!!!!!

sportscurmudgeon · 03-25-2005, 01:15 PM

Let me see if I have this right. The guys on TV who actually played professional football at one time in their life are just winging it and have no particular expertise - - compared to people who post opinions here.

Am I missing something?

Someone also said that everyone criticizes the Coles/Moss situation but offers no constructive suggestions about what should have been done. Not true; I offered an idea about that more than a month ago. Once it became absolutely clear that the Redskins did not want Coles back with them, they should have cut their losses and accpeted his offer to forget his $5M roster bonus in exchange for an outright release. I thought then - and I continue to think now - that the added flexibility that it would have given the Skins with regard to the salary cap would be worth more than Santana Moss will be worth. And remember, Moss is not going to remain a "bargain priced WR" for very long!

There's my suggestion; it hasn't changed in a month. The Skins had a time when they could have done it but they didn't. Whatever... And yes, that's just my opinion so it doesn't make it right, but it does demonstrate that some people actually did have concrete suggestions about how the situation might have turned out better.

wolfeskins · 03-25-2005, 04:51 PM

if the skins would have let coles leave and in return got 5 mil. towards the cap , they still would have been criticized. it was a lose lose situation , as far as getting criticized. if and i stress IF santana moss has a good season and the skins improve their win,loss record by 3 or more wins, then these same critics will be praising the trade of coles for moss. especially if coles struggles.

John Hasbrouck · 03-25-2005, 08:54 PM

we will hoist the lombardie trophy 2 more times before coach goes

03-25-2005, 01:57 AM	#1
Redskins8588 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ridgway, PA Age: 46 Posts: 2,519	Re: nfl network Solomom Wilcox is a dork and so is the other three monkeys that are on that Playbook show. At the end of the show they each give out an "attaboy" award, and on the one show they gave one to Brian Urlactater for the play where he ran down Portis and nearly ripped his head off with the face mask. I am not an expert on anything but dont you think that is the wrong message to send out to young kids that could be watching the show? I mean they basicly praised the guy for commiting a very serious penalty, now thats the way to show young viewers how to play the linebacker position!!! __________________ "I am the best at what I do, and what I do isn't very nice" - Sean Taylor

03-25-2005, 08:26 AM	#4
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: nfl network I'd love to know what some these analysts would have done with the Coles situation? A lot of them are quick to criticize but have no realistic alternative solutions to offer. Guess that's why they are analysts and not coaches and GMs. I have quit listening to them about stuff like this. I will listen to specific player discussion because that is stuff I don't know but when it comes to management, team building and things of that nature most them are clueless. That's why guys like Mortenson of ESPN are valuable. He seems to at least listen to the league GMs and coaches and his opinions reflect what they say not what his unknowing eyes tell him. Usually. Notice how this time of year Mortensen basically says nothing. He doesn't have any articles up recently and is never on ESPN. Its because this is the time of year for rampant speculation which isn't his business and ridiculous chatter.

03-25-2005, 09:24 AM	#5
56FAN Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: MANASSAS VA Age: 63 Posts: 323	Re: nfl network opinions are like backsides, everybody's got one. these guys are just slinging it from hip without any real in depth understanding of what the heck they are talking about. sometimes it just comes down to them likeing to hear themselves talk. coles had to go, showing his rear end the way he did like a little baby shows he's not reay to be the guy. with moss it reamins to be seen. but as you all have in one way or another said it is better to have a man who wants to be here than aman who doesn't.

03-25-2005, 09:27 AM	#7
56FAN Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: MANASSAS VA Age: 63 Posts: 323	Re: nfl network amen, and some of them penetrate walls, real pungent ya know ???!!!!

03-25-2005, 09:47 AM	#8
firstdown Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 61 Posts: 15,817	Re: nfl network How would he know if it was a bust before the season even starts. If he thinks the Redskins got a bad deal I would have to agree but our options were very few.

03-25-2005, 11:26 AM	#10
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 6,766	Re: nfl network Talking about changing minds, I remember Jimmy Johnson saying he thought the game had passed Joe Gibbs by as well....the thing with Vermeil, Parcells, and Marty must had been an after thought. It's no secret that the media has hounded Joe Gibbs from day one, anybody who can't see that has been living under a rock this past season. The only ones I have noticed that have not given up faith in Gibbs are his ex-players and his coaching friends in the NFL that are closest to him. __________________ "Fire Up That Diesel!"

03-25-2005, 12:17 PM	#11
Longtimefan Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germantown, Md. Posts: 4,832	Re: nfl network While there has been many varied opinions relative to the return of Joe Gibbs to the Redskins, for some odd reason we seem to always as a franchise fall victum to some form of irresponsible journalism in one venue or another. Despite our 6-10 record last year I'm convinced of the fact Gibbs did as well as one could honestly expect having been away for 11 years and not knowing his personell to the extent he does now. I never thought it would be fair to Gibbs if we truly expected him to make the team an instant winner in one season. I have the utmost confidence in what Gibbs brings to this franchise and if we exhibit the faith, and patience we need he will get it done. Forget all those nay-sayers. They all envy our potential for success. We will be winners in 05 and you can take that to the bank!!!

03-25-2005, 01:06 PM	#12
56FAN Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: MANASSAS VA Age: 63 Posts: 323	Re: nfl network soo much the sweeter when we hoist the lombardi trophy. break your teeth on this you bunch of nay sayers. he has a plan and will work out. time is the only ingredient to make this cake bake. and then into they'er collective faces.lol lol lol it will be sooooo shhhhwweett!!!!!!!!!!!

03-25-2005, 01:15 PM	#13
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	Re: nfl network Let me see if I have this right. The guys on TV who actually played professional football at one time in their life are just winging it and have no particular expertise - - compared to people who post opinions here. Am I missing something? Someone also said that everyone criticizes the Coles/Moss situation but offers no constructive suggestions about what should have been done. Not true; I offered an idea about that more than a month ago. Once it became absolutely clear that the Redskins did not want Coles back with them, they should have cut their losses and accpeted his offer to forget his $5M roster bonus in exchange for an outright release. I thought then - and I continue to think now - that the added flexibility that it would have given the Skins with regard to the salary cap would be worth more than Santana Moss will be worth. And remember, Moss is not going to remain a "bargain priced WR" for very long! There's my suggestion; it hasn't changed in a month. The Skins had a time when they could have done it but they didn't. Whatever... And yes, that's just my opinion so it doesn't make it right, but it does demonstrate that some people actually did have concrete suggestions about how the situation might have turned out better. __________________ The Sports Curmudgeon www.sportscurmudgeon.com But don't get me wrong, I love sports...

03-25-2005, 04:51 PM	#14
wolfeskins The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: chesapeake,va. Posts: 2,160	Re: nfl network if the skins would have let coles leave and in return got 5 mil. towards the cap , they still would have been criticized. it was a lose lose situation , as far as getting criticized. if and i stress IF santana moss has a good season and the skins improve their win,loss record by 3 or more wins, then these same critics will be praising the trade of coles for moss. especially if coles struggles.

03-25-2005, 08:54 PM	#15
John Hasbrouck Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 180	Re: nfl network we will hoist the lombardie trophy 2 more times before coach goes

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