2014 salary cap....and the money we have

[SFREDSKIN]

I would add Grossman, Rocca, Moss.

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[Evilgrin]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

Salary Cap Calculator - Over the Cap

Haven't seen this anywhere until now.

Pretty sweet tool to fudge around with the cap and see what kind of shape we're in.

I love this site, and all I gotta say is "HOW BOUT THEM COWBOYS!"

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by TheGuyFromOverThere

So, what would you opt for? Blow it all and get right back to the cap-top or keep some 5-10 Millions in reserve for opportunities in this season or maybe next year?

Keep some in reserves, it seems like a few teams get in cap hell every year, where they have to cut half their roster loose because they signed too many guys at high price contracts. I'd rather be consistent every year, then ebb up and down w/ the talent on the roster.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by TheGuyFromOverThere

So, what would you opt for? Blow it all and get right back to the cap-top or keep some 5-10 Millions in reserve for opportunities in this season or maybe next year?

Do NOT blow it all in one offseason. I'm guessing that Alf's initial deal is up after next season. Same with Trent. We need to be smart with the cap to keep our key nucleus guys together for 4-5 years without sacrificing depth.

[NYCskinfan82]

Good stuff can't wait to see who we sign.

[skinsfaninok]

Moss is done I'm actually surprised he hasn't retired yet

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

Ya sorry guys been really busy. I'm gonna do my best to get new cap sheets up this weekend.

What are we paying u for??

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

Do NOT blow it all in one offseason. I'm guessing that Alf's initial deal is up after next season. Same with Trent. We need to be smart with the cap to keep our key nucleus guys together for 4-5 years without sacrificing depth.

Yeah Trent will be a 70 million dollar guy IMO.

[FRPLG]

We'll if there aren't enough FAs worth the money we have to spend we need to restructure some guys INTO next season to create flexibility in later years. No reason to walk around next year with more than a couple million for in season moves at the very most. Convert some bonuses into salary and so forth to eat up the extra space then in '15 we should have good space too.

[delusional optimist]

I personally think both Bowen and Carriker need to be let go.Bowen will cost us over 7 mil against the cap and really hasn't done jack the last 2 yrs.1 sack 4 pd and 5 TFL in the last 2 seasons? Carriker is due nearly 7 mill and he hasn't played in 2 yrs.I like Carriker but he is more body builder than football player.

Not sure how much of that is Guaranteed but i'm sure the release of those 2 would clear up some more space.Does that create a hole? Sure but is that position not a hole as it is? Why not clear some space to actually fill it instead of hanging on to these 2?

Also Golston will cost over a mill and he should have been let go yrs ago. This is one of the reasons i was hoping we would move to a 4-3 base. Even with the release of these 3 (and the cap space that would free up) we would still have Cofield , Jenkins and Neild at the DT position with Rak( franchised) and Kerrigan at DE. I think all of those guys are better fits in a 4-3 than a 3-4

[SkinsFanOttawa]

Originally Posted by delusional optimist

I personally think both Bowen and Carriker need to be let go.Bowen will cost us over 7 mil against the cap and really hasn't done jack the last 2 yrs.1 sack 4 pd and 5 TFL in the last 2 seasons? Carriker is due nearly 7 mill and he hasn't played in 2 yrs.I like Carriker but he is more body builder than football player.

Not sure how much of that is Guaranteed but i'm sure the release of those 2 would clear up some more space.Does that create a hole? Sure but is that position not a hole as it is? Why not clear some space to actually fill it instead of hanging on to these 2?

Also Golston will cost over a mill and he should have been let go yrs ago. This is one of the reasons i was hoping we would move to a 4-3 base. Even with the release of these 3 (and the cap space that would free up) we would still have Cofield , Jenkins and Neild at the DT position with Rak( franchised) and Kerrigan at DE. I think all of those guys are better fits in a 4-3 than a 3-4

Hey guys I have been reading the salary cap info for years on this site and find it very informative. No other Redskins' fan forum gets this indepth and I am intrigued by the cap for whatever reason so I thought I'd throw in my 2 cents.

These suggestions made about releases are pretty good but some would result in a lot of "dead" money. I have a spreadsheet I made that is heavily based on Spotrac but that includes a column of possible savings. I'd like to post it for you guys if you'd like but not sure how to add attachments.

According to the our $ carryover and potential 2014 cap of $126.3mill (from what I've read) our cap space will be just under $36mill. This is already great but we can get additional space with the following moves:

One of the biggest savings would be to cut Adam Carriker outright who is scheduled to earn $6.7mill. Although he would cost $3.5 mill in dead money his savings would be just over $3.2 mill.

Also another big savings would be getting rid of Chris Chester. He counts for $4.3mill against the cap and cutting him, even though it would cost $1.6mill in dead money, the savings would be $2.7mill.

Unfortunately Steven Bowen's $7mill cap figure and resulting cut would be over $5mill of dead money so only about $2mill in total savings. Maybe worth it still I'm not sure. They should definitely get him to take some sort of pay cut IMO.

Kedric Golston would be a good cut savings wise. His $1.1mill salary would only have $240k of dead money so about $900k of cap savings right there.

I don't want to step on anyone's toes but let me know if you guys want a copy and how I can post it then you can play around with it yourselves.

[delusional optimist]

Originally Posted by SkinsFanOttawa

Hey guys I have been reading the salary cap info for years on this site and find it very informative. No other Redskins' fan forum gets this indepth and I am intrigued by the cap for whatever reason so I thought I'd throw in my 2 cents.

These suggestions made about releases are pretty good but some would result in a lot of "dead" money. I have a spreadsheet I made that is heavily based on Spotrac but that includes a column of possible savings. I'd like to post it for you guys if you'd like but not sure how to add attachments.

According to the our $ carryover and potential 2014 cap of $126.3mill (from what I've read) our cap space will be just under $36mill. This is already great but we can get additional space with the following moves:

One of the biggest savings would be to cut Adam Carriker outright who is scheduled to earn $6.7mill. Although he would cost $3.5 mill in dead money his savings would be just over $3.2 mill.

Also another big savings would be getting rid of Chris Chester. He counts for $4.3mill against the cap and cutting him, even though it would cost $1.6mill in dead money, the savings would be $2.7mill.

Unfortunately Steven Bowen's $7mill cap figure and resulting cut would be over $5mill of dead money so only about $2mill in total savings. Maybe worth it still I'm not sure. They should definitely get him to take some sort of pay cut IMO.

Kedric Golston would be a good cut savings wise. His $1.1mill salary would only have $240k of dead money so about $900k of cap savings right there.

I don't want to step on anyone's toes but let me know if you guys want a copy and how I can post it then you can play around with it yourselves.

I'm glad you posted this. I can never figure how much you actually save when you cut guys because of the way the contracts are structured. I'm not sure how you could post aside from cut and paste (new to the site) but i would like to take a look at your spreadsheet.

According to my math cutting those 4 would free up just under 9 mill. To me that is more valuable to us than those 4 by a long shot IMO.

Chester was a bad signing and he played soft all of last season. He needs to be replaced and upgraded. I think a rookie could give us at least as much production out the gate with the potential to grow at a much lower price.

Carriker clearly has to be cut. There is no way to justify paying him that much. He has had 1 good year (2011) and even then he was ranked very low as a run defender.

Bowen was also good in 2011 but has been a non-factor since. The dead money part sucks but if he isn't producing and cutting him saves 2 mill plus opens up a roster spot to bring in someone who can (or has the potential to) i think thats the way to go.

Golston never has been anything more than a big body and he is one of the poster boys for the good guy,good in the locker room types that we hold on to even though they bring nothing to this team on the field. Needs to be let go just for the sake of opening up a roster spot. The money saved is just gravy

If you are right and we have 36 mil to work with before these cuts that would put us at almost 45 mil when/if we made them. I would be interested in seeing if we would save anything substantial for cutting Lichtenstiger. I think he is set to make something in the 3 mill range which isn't much but that guy just doesn't look like an NFL OL. I think if he stays he should move to C. He usually gives up about 40 lbs to the people he is trying to block. Can't be to surprised when they just walk him into the backfield every time we pass.

[SkinsFanOttawa]

Thanks D.O, it looks like I am not able to post attachments on here (says so on my "posting rules" at the bottom left of my page). If you'd like send me your email address and I will email the spreadsheet to you. I agree with you on the Carriker, Golston and Chester releases or at the very least pay cuts. I think Bowen would be better let go next year (less dead money according to spotrac).

Also another one that is listed on their site as counting towards the cap is Brandon Meriweather. I have read in other spots that he is a free agent but if that's not the case and they can release him, his cap figure is $3.4mill with $1.2mill of dead money. That's another savings of $2.2mill. That one to me is a no brainer.

How about Sav Rocca? Slated to make $1.3mill with only a $162k of dead money for a savings of $1.2mill. Another no brainer IMO. See ya Sav.

[That Guy]

i think i'd like to keep orakpo, riley, jackson and doughty... maybe kehl, but only orakpo should be expensive out of that list. if d hall isn't looking for crazy cash, i'm okay with him, but not as our #1 CB.

we NEED a safety and #1 CB, for real. grabbing a WR and OT would be a good move too (price/performance WR, like britt or maybe boldin). OT can basically be any of the top 15 FAs and it'd be a huge improvement.

[delusional optimist]

Originally Posted by That Guy

i think i'd like to keep orakpo, riley, jackson and doughty... maybe kehl, but only orakpo should be expensive out of that list. if d hall isn't looking for crazy cash, i'm okay with him, but not as our #1 CB.

we NEED a safety and #1 CB, for real. grabbing a WR and OT would be a good move too (price/performance WR, like britt or maybe boldin). OT can basically be any of the top 15 FAs and it'd be a huge improvement.

Read the other night where Hall said he was likely to re-sign and would quote "love " to be moved to safety