Projected Lineup... Your thoughts?

[calia]

I don't disagree with this ^. Gruden isn't going to be swayed by the memories folks have of how Jenkins impressed in his rookie camp before his injury; he will evaluate on what is happening with him right now. Baker showed more on the field late last year than Jenkins, I think.

Anyone hear anything about whether Carriker is going to get another look (assuming he's healthy enough)?

[Mechanix544]

Originally Posted by calia

I don't disagree with this ^. Gruden isn't going to be swayed by the memories folks have of how Jenkins impressed in his rookie camp before his injury; he will evaluate on what is happening with him right now. Baker showed more on the field late last year than Jenkins, I think.

Anyone hear anything about whether Carriker is going to get another look (assuming he's healthy enough)?

I believe that Jenkins is more talented than Baker, and I would also like to see Long as the LG, and Luavou move over to RG if we start a rookie at RT. If we start Compton or Polumbus at RT, then leave Long at RG. Point is, having a complete rookie Right side scares the hell out of me, I would definitely like to pair them up with a veteran. Id love a line that looked like this.

Silverback SpencerLong Gettis/Lichensteiger Luavo Moses


I put Gettis in there over Lichensteiger cause Lickenstiger is only 281 lbs, and Gettis is 297. Gettis is also younger, and can pass block better than Kory L. I just don't know how well he could function as a center, if he has the brain to call out schemes, or if Lichensteiger gets the job cause he is a smart guy and knows alot about picking up the rush. We will see, but I do hope the best guy gets the job. I don't think we picked up Moses to sit on the bench though, I believe he will be a day one starter after a good camp and preseason. It would be nice for RG3 to grow with this young group of Lineman and receivers. Our offense as a whole is super young, and that should be very exciting for even the run of the mill skins fan.

[SirLK26]

Well, I gave my O-line predictions in another thread, so here's my WR predictions. Unless we keep Hocker as a KO specialist or keep 4 TEs, I'm fairly confident that we'll keep 6 WRs.

#1 - Pierre Garcon. Obviously. As a note, while I don't expect numbers like he put up last year, I do think he'll certainly get Pro Bowl numbers again.

#2 - DeSean Jackson. Obviously. Can't wait to see him out there.

#3 - Andre Roberts. Was hoping we'd target him in FA and play him as a #2, so I'm pretty happy with him here.

#4 - Leonard Hankerson. I think if he gets injured sometime during the offseason, he'll be a definite late-cut possibility. But he's a solid receiver when healthy, and still only 25.

#5 - Aldrick Robinson. Not sure about this one. With the relatively young age of our WR corps, they might go with the veteran Moss over this guy for mentorship purposes, then draft another receiver sometime in the next few seasons to start developing. I dunno. If Robinson/Moss makes the roster, Ryan Grant might be in this spot over him/them.

#6 - Ryan Grant. Fairly certain he's a lock to make the 53-man roster, especially considering Gruden's praise about how he looked like a "10 year veteran" already. Maybe he could get a lot more playing time than I think. Maybe #4?

Same as the OL, much improvement. And to think I was considering the possibilities of maybe Hankerson as #2. LOL. What a relief. But again, what do I know?

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I don't see Moses starting. I think the right side on opening day will be Gettis and Polumbus.

I also think Chris Baker will start over Jenkins, who to be honest I wouldn't be surprised doesn't make the final roster

Jenkins seemed to have such promise before the injury in his rookie year. He was getting rave reviews. Since coming back, however, he has been very much "just a guy". Don't know if he lost something due to the injury or if he just never really had it, but he seems eminently replaceable now.

I am with you on Moses. Everything I read is that he has great upside BUT poor technique and not familiar with the ZBS. Sucks that we are - once again - stuck with Polumbus.

It does appear that Compton just isn't making the strides necessary - I wonder what it is that Compton is lacking. Really, if you can't beat out Polumbus after two years, just not sure you are ever going to be NFL ready.

I am making the bold prediction that the day one starter from the draft is Long at right guard. Clearly, Luavo is penciled in at the LG spot.

Can Gettis play both guard positions or is he strictly the right side? I think LeRib makes it over Chester but just barely (mostly due to the fact that LeRib can play center also).

As for WR's I think they carry 5 and either Robinson or Hank is gone. [EDIT: Moss gets one final year].

[skinsfan69]

Put the best players on the field, regardless of draft status, age or contract. I know we all want the young guys on the field. However, if Chester shows up and plays better than Gettis or Long then he should start. If Moses outplays Polumbus then he should start. I really hope Gruden takes a page from Pete Carroll and preaches pure competition. This team won 3 games last year. No jobs should be safe.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Put the best players on the field, regardless of draft status, age or contract. I know we all want the young guys on the field. However, if Chester shows up and plays better than Gettis or Long then he should start. If Moses outplays Polumbus then he should start. I really hope Gruden takes a page from Pete Carroll and preaches pure competition. This team won 3 games last year. No jobs should be safe.

Agree agree agree +10000000

Silverback is the only guy who Id plug in at Oline. I'd rather the Oline stay unperdictable meaning its a wide open competition at every spot.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Mechanix544

I believe that Jenkins is more talented than Baker, and I would also like to see Long as the LG, and Luavou move over to RG if we start a rookie at RT. If we start Compton or Polumbus at RT, then leave Long at RG. Point is, having a complete rookie Right side scares the hell out of me, I would definitely like to pair them up with a veteran. Id love a line that looked like this.



Silverback SpencerLong Gettis/Lichensteiger Luavo Moses





I put Gettis in there over Lichensteiger cause Lickenstiger is only 281 lbs, and Gettis is 297. Gettis is also younger, and can pass block better than Kory L. I just don't know how well he could function as a center, if he has the brain to call out schemes, or if Lichensteiger gets the job cause he is a smart guy and knows alot about picking up the rush. We will see, but I do hope the best guy gets the job. I don't think we picked up Moses to sit on the bench though, I believe he will be a day one starter after a good camp and preseason. It would be nice for RG3 to grow with this young group of Lineman and receivers. Our offense as a whole is super young, and that should be very exciting for even the run of the mill skins fan.

Kory has been working to put on weight. He's shooting to be in the mid 290s this year. He seems to be a pretty good lock at center right now.

[JoeRedskin]

Who does everyone think are the major veteran cuts?

I see Chester, Royster, Bowen, Biggs, Hank or Robinson, Minnifield (not sure he fits the category).


Anyone got some "Wow, didn't see that one coming!" ideas?
I got two: Rob Jackson and Roy Helu.

Not saying they will be, but that it could possibly, maybe happen (for Jackson it wouldn't be THAT much of shocker given his late resigning). Honestly, I would be shocked if Helu was cut.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Who does everyone think are the major veteran cuts?

I see Chester, Royster, Bowen, Biggs, Hank or Robinson, Minnifield (not sure he fits the category).


Anyone got some "Wow, didn't see that one coming!" ideas?
I got two: Rob Jackson and Roy Helu.

Not saying they will be, but that it could possibly, maybe happen (for Jackson it wouldn't be THAT much of shocker given his late resigning). Honestly, I would be shocked if Helu was cut.

Who's Biggs? You mean Biggers?

Chester, Helu, Biggers, Minnifield, J. Jenkins, LeRibeus (technically he's a veteran), and I'm torn on if Moss is let go

Also, Forbath

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Who's Biggs? You mean Biggers?

Chester, Helu, Biggers, Minnifield, J. Jenkins, LeRibeus (technically he's a veteran), and I'm torn on if Moss is let go

Also, Forbath

I would think helu could have some value. I'd call around starting with the jets, then Cleveland, see if we could land a late pick.

Moss makes little sense to keep if the front 3 WR are healthy going into the season. We don't need him to return kicks anymore, so no special teams.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

I would be upset if Helu was cut

[Irrefutable]

I think the Redskins will cut some of the veterans mentioned above, but they could also pick-up some as well. The Texans cannot claim everyone that doesn't make the last cut.

[Skins4L]

I think Moses can most likely start week 1. Well know more soon. But all the information and media ive seen on Moses tells me hes a day 1 starter. Just like Zach Martin in dallas.. just like Matthews in ATL.. Long is the same story. Grudens gonna put the best guys out there if Chester shows up then Long takes a seat during the learning curve. But Polumbus.. ew.. I see RG getting hit already lets get Moses ready.

[SkinzWin]

This poopoos peoples' ideas about rookies starting right away.

NFL Sizing up the rookies: Morgan Moses - ESPN

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

This poopoos peoples' ideas about rookies starting right away.

NFL Sizing up the rookies: Morgan Moses - ESPN

Yeah I have heard that about almost every draft pick ever.