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Old 08-12-2015, 12:24 PM   #1
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Can someone explain why O'Brien was never interviewed for this job? I guess he wasn't part of the good ole boy network from Tampa. My feeling is that there was no way Snyder and Allen could deal with, or handle a strong personality like that.
They were interested but Texans moved quickly to hire O'Brien. Texans got a jump on the coaching search that year because they fired Kubiak with 3 games left in the season
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Old 08-12-2015, 11:28 AM   #2
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Yeah the JJ Watt love fest was a little overboard. But for someone who makes a ton of money, and is the best at his position, he sure isn't sitting around enjoying the pats on the back. Dude works his ass off. Even catches balls on the jug machine, my guess was that he'll be playing more TE for them.
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Old 08-12-2015, 02:20 PM   #3
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Let's not get carried away with the Bill O'Brien love based on a pre training camp speech, or anything else we see on Hard Knocks (again, it's training camp).

I don't think Gibbs would have been a darling on HK, but he could manage people and he could adjust at halftime like the best of them. Speeches on HK don't impress me.
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Let's not get carried away with the Bill O'Brien love based on a pre training camp speech, or anything else we see on Hard Knocks (again, it's training camp).

I don't think Gibbs would have been a darling on HK, but he could manage people and he could adjust at halftime like the best of them. Speeches on HK don't impress me.
I rather have Bill over Jay before ever hearing a HK speech from Bill. I am willing to bet Bill is the coach of Houston next year and Jay is working at Taco Bell with RGIII.
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Old 08-12-2015, 03:49 PM   #5
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Pierre Garcon Steps to J.J. Watt on 'Hard Knocks,' Gives Him a New NSFW Name | Bleacher Report

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And that is how a tiny scatback called the scariest man in the NFL a "f--k boy" and lived to tell the tale. For now.
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Old 08-12-2015, 03:53 PM   #7
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When did O'Brien become this superstar head coach??
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When did O'Brien become this superstar head coach??

...... post #9 and 10 of this thread .
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Old 08-12-2015, 07:11 PM   #9
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...... post #9 and 10 of this thread .
Lol, really? That's all it takes?
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Old 08-12-2015, 05:07 PM   #10
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When did O'Brien become this superstar head coach??
No one said he was a superstar. Just that he's probably a better HC than Gruden. He did a hell of a job at PSU and went 9-7 with no QB last year.
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No one said he was a superstar. Just that he's probably a better HC than Gruden. He did a hell of a job at PSU and went 9-7 with no QB last year.
This, I am willing to bet Bill is employed longer then Jay.
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I know O'Brien was highly sought after, but I just don't see it.

Yes, he went 9-7 last year, but here's who they beat:
Tennessee (twice) (2-14)
Jax (twice) (3-13)
Oak (3-13)
Us (4-12)
Cleveland (7-9)
Buffalo (9-7)
Baltimore (10-6)

So six of the wins came against teams with double digit losses and only one was against a team with double digit wins. Yes, a win is a win, but that looks like a pretty padded schedule to me.

And, yeah, Penn State was a tough gig, but, after year one he says ""I’m not a one-and-done guy. I made a commitment to these players at Penn State and that’s what I am going to do. I’m not gonna cut and run after one year, that’s for sure." Then, after year two, he's quits for the Texans job. So, one year = not living up to commitment, but two years = living up to your commitment. I mean, technically, he did what he said, but, in my mind anyway, he sure as hell did not live up to the spirit of his words or to his supposed "commitment to th[e] players at Penn State." I am really not a fan of these "I'm deeply committed to this franchise/college -- until I get a better offer" coaches.

He may end up living to his rep, but I am unimpressed to date.
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I know O'Brien was highly sought after, but I just don't see it.

Yes, he went 9-7 last year, but here's who they beat:
Tennessee (twice) (2-14)
Jax (twice) (3-13)
Oak (3-13)
Us (4-12)
Cleveland (7-9)
Buffalo (9-7)
Baltimore (10-6)

So six of the wins came against teams with double digit losses and only one was against a team with double digit wins. Yes, a win is a win, but that looks like a pretty padded schedule to me.

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He may end up living to his rep, but I am unimpressed to date.
Don't leave out the part where he did this in his first year with a previously 2-14 team and without a good QB.
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Don't leave out the part where he did this in his first year with a previously 2-14 team and without a good QB.
That team had a lot more talent than what the 2-14 record would dictate.
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Don't leave out the part where he did this in his first year with a previously 2-14 team and without a good QB.
True. However, they still had Foster, Johnson and Watt.

And the two years prior to the collapse they were 12-4 and 10-6.

9-7 with 4 wins coming against 2 teams that five wins between them. I would bet that, in almost any other division, they would have ended with a losing record.

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