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05-17-2005, 11:19 PM
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Re: QB's since Ramsey's draft
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last year: #3 year prior: #25 NOT SOLID, sorry. |
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05-17-2005, 11:29 PM
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Thank You, Sean.
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Re: QB's since Ramsey's draft
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In a totatly unrelated question, did you bet the kentucky derby?? Giacomo is your s/n so I was just wondering, and i'm pretty sure i've seen you on here for a while.
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05-18-2005, 12:32 AM
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Re: QB's since Ramsey's draft
I think that Big Ben gets too much credit. People fail to see that he landed in the best situation that a young and talented QB could land in. Look at the Steelers team all-around, they had a very good WR group with Pro-Bowler Hines Ward, Burress, and Randle El.
Then he had two very big power-backs to hand off to in Jerome Bettis and Duce Staley, not to mention the o-line, which had like 1 or 2 pro-bowlers. Big Ben also had the #1 D to fall back on if he threw an INT. You could even see if you watched any steeler game, if Ben threw an Int it did not bother him because he knew how good the D was. I may be wrong but the D also supported like 2 or 3 pro-bowlers. Also Big Ben had a very good special teams unit to give him a short field to work with. I am not saying that Ben sucks, or that he is not a good young talented QB. Yeah the Steelers did have 16 straight victories, but not just do to Ben's QB play but rather than the whole team being a fundamentaly sound team at every level, offense, deffense and special teams. Ben did make very good choices and looked very good in during games, but like I mentioned he came in to a system allready established. Would the Steelers have won 16 straight had Maddox not been injured, I dont know, but something tells me that the Steelers still would have made the playoffs...
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05-18-2005, 01:09 AM
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Re: QB's since Ramsey's draft
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It wasen't like Gibbs did him any favor's last season. |
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05-18-2005, 01:15 AM
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Circumstances dictate much of the time a player's productivity, Ramsey is just as capable of doing the same thing's BB is, the problem has been the players and the coaching around him, I have no doubt that Ramsey will be very successful in the NFL, whether it's with us is still to be determined. |
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05-18-2005, 08:21 AM
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Re: QB's since Ramsey's draft
Let's not forget how many bad games Big Ben had. He only really played great in 2-3 games. Most of the time his amazing running game and his good (yet overrated) defense saved him (They were #1 because they saw less snaps than any other defense. Skins were best in YPP.) Ben did do some impressive things as a rookie, but Ward, Burress, and Randal-El along with Staley/Bettis, one of the leagues best lines, and a good solid coaching staff is a dream for a rookie QB to drop into.
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05-18-2005, 08:32 AM
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Re: QB's since Ramsey's draft
Couldn't have said it better myself.
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05-18-2005, 08:38 AM
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05-18-2005, 12:30 PM
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Re: QB's since Ramsey's draft
I just can't get over the INT he threw against PHI in the back of the endzone.
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05-18-2005, 06:40 PM
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05-19-2005, 09:15 AM
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Compared to Pittsburgh, we spotted our opponents an extra 2:40 of offense, and we lost seven games by one score or less. There's the reason for hope.
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05-19-2005, 10:05 AM
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05-19-2005, 10:02 PM
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Re: QB's since Ramsey's draft
Carr and Ramsey had something in common....a weak offensive line........ours will improve this year with Jansen back and Rabach at center. Carr has no time to throw....he's gotten some unfair criticism, hopefully, the guy they drafted this year will give him some protection.....
I like Big Ben......Harrington has the smell of a bust....I'm not a big fan of Leftwich I saw a few games where he played terrible.......
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