Should we have traded Patrick Ramsey?

That Guy · 10-05-2005, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by #56fanatic

Campbell showed in the preseason he is capable of making all the throws and looked very comfortable in the pocket. this is my opinion, but you know what everybody says about those.

campbell throws a lot of ints too...

railcon56 · 10-05-2005, 05:24 PM

Here we go again ...DAMN

drew54 · 10-05-2005, 06:32 PM

Wilbon said in his chat that the Jets only offered a sixth rounder.

Daseal · 10-05-2005, 07:06 PM

We should have traded him assuming he was worth some value. If Gibbs knew damn well he wasn't going to play him, he should have gotten something for him. Simple as that. However, if all we were offered was a 6th rounder -- the right decesion was made.

BigSKINBauer · 10-05-2005, 07:48 PM

hmmmmm we would have traded him to the.....jets. Now have the jets taught us nothing about why it is important to have backup QBs?

SkinsFan3000 · 10-05-2005, 07:57 PM

great point bigSkin. we absolutely need a backup with experience. how many teams make it the whole season on the same QB?

SkinsLove24/7 · 10-05-2005, 10:56 PM

I think we may need Ransey in case Brunnell goes down and the season is still looking good. After this season or at most next season Ramsey will not be a Redskin and Jason Campbell will be working up to being the starter in D.C.
Ramsey is a good QB and he will be successful somewhere but not here..too bad.

Big C · 10-05-2005, 11:07 PM

we should have traded p ram in the offseason and signed a good backup like billy volek, who prolly would have started for us. even maybe have signed vinny

sportscurmudgeon · 10-05-2005, 11:22 PM

The short answer to your question is, "no".

The longer answer is that any team that aspires to the playoffs in the NFL must have a competent back-up QB. Too many QBs go down and you have to have someone around who can start three or four games for you in a pinch and win one or two of them. Jason Campbell is not yet ready to be relied on in that way. Ramsey was under contract and there really weren't a whole lot of better QBs out there on the free agent market last year who would fit under the Skins' cap.

So, keeping Ramsey last off-season was the right move - - even if you agree with me that Joe Gibbs was never all that thrilled to have Ramsey as his starting QB. And now that the season is started and the Skins are 3-0, trading him would be a huge mistake. Unless of course the Colts were willing to give up their guy - what's his name, Peyton Something Or Other???

Gmanc711 · 10-05-2005, 11:18 PM

If people think Ramsey's value is that of a 6th round draft pick, we mine as well just keep him for as long as he wants to stay here, which is probaboly till the end of his contract. If anything we should have given him to Miami last year for a first rounder, but thats easy to second guess now because I'm sure if we did that we all would have been pretty pissed off, myself included.

Luxorreb · 10-05-2005, 11:56 PM

Let us all remember it is a very long season. Ramsey could see action at anytime. Brunell is much better solving pressure situations, but he could go down at anytime. And I'll bet he's more than ready.

#56fanatic · 10-06-2005, 08:18 AM

What I am not hearing from people is that Ramseys contract is up at the end of the year. If you can get an pretty good draft pick for him, why wouldn't you want another pick? What has Ramsey shown in his games played, that makes you think Campbell couldn't do just as good if not better. 1 out of 8 passes Ramsey throws is picked off, he gets sacked 1 out of every 7 attemps and of the ones left, 1 or 2 of those a batted down. I have been a Ramsey fan since we drafted him, but with Gibbs here we dont have the time to wait on him to get the bugs out. Like I said, his contract is up at the end of the year, and if we could get a 3rd rounder, why not?

FRPLG · 10-06-2005, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by #56fanatic

What I am not hearing from people is that Ramseys contract is up at the end of the year. If you can get an pretty good draft pick for him, why wouldn't you want another pick? What has Ramsey shown in his games played, that makes you think Campbell couldn't do just as good if not better. 1 out of 8 passes Ramsey throws is picked off, he gets sacked 1 out of every 7 attemps and of the ones left, 1 or 2 of those a batted down. I have been a Ramsey fan since we drafted him, but with Gibbs here we dont have the time to wait on him to get the bugs out. Like I said, his contract is up at the end of the year, and if we could get a 3rd rounder, why not?

You're not hearing that because you're wrong. He has another year left after this year on his contract. And the corollary to that is that he is relatively cheap. He might be a slightly expensive backup QB but it wouldn't be ridiculous like having a $13 mil backup LB. My guess is that he stays here unless they get a quality offer for him. I am thinking they'd take a 1st rounder only maybe.

As far as Campbell goes: I think the guy has all the talent to be a good QB but what exactly did you see in the slightly more than 3 quarters of pre-season football against 3rd/4th stringers and cut players that makes you think he is even remotely ready to play? You are way over-estimating what he could be expected to do my friend.

irish · 10-06-2005, 08:44 AM

Traded him!? Every yahoo on this site thought PR was the man and told me I didnt understand squat about football when I predicted PR would not be the starter in the 4th game (sorry I missed my prediction by 3 games). Now the talk is PR should have been traded, gimme a break!

PR's not going anywhere until the season's done because when MB gets hurt, and he will get hurt, the team needs an experienced backup to keep the ship moving in the right direction.

backrow · 10-06-2005, 09:20 AM

For those who want to insert J. Campbell, check with Buffalo about Los(er)man!

10-05-2005, 05:24 PM	#2
railcon56 Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 922	Re: Should we have traded Patrick Ramsey? Here we go again ...DAMN

10-05-2005, 06:32 PM	#3
drew54 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: IOWA Age: 42 Posts: 1,324	Re: Should we have traded Patrick Ramsey? Wilbon said in his chat that the Jets only offered a sixth rounder. __________________ No pressure, no diamonds.

10-05-2005, 07:06 PM	#4
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	Re: Should we have traded Patrick Ramsey? We should have traded him assuming he was worth some value. If Gibbs knew damn well he wasn't going to play him, he should have gotten something for him. Simple as that. However, if all we were offered was a 6th rounder -- the right decesion was made. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

10-05-2005, 07:57 PM	#6
SkinsFan3000 Camp Scrub Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 41	Re: Should we have traded Patrick Ramsey? great point bigSkin. we absolutely need a backup with experience. how many teams make it the whole season on the same QB?

10-05-2005, 10:56 PM	#7
SkinsLove24/7 Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Bowie, MD Age: 38 Posts: 423	Re: Should we have traded Patrick Ramsey? I think we may need Ransey in case Brunnell goes down and the season is still looking good. After this season or at most next season Ramsey will not be a Redskin and Jason Campbell will be working up to being the starter in D.C. Ramsey is a good QB and he will be successful somewhere but not here..too bad.

10-05-2005, 07:48 PM	#5
BigSKINBauer Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Washington, DC Age: 37 Posts: 5,688	Re: Should we have traded Patrick Ramsey? hmmmmm we would have traded him to the.....jets. Now have the jets taught us nothing about why it is important to have backup QBs?

10-05-2005, 11:07 PM	#8
Big C Mr. Brightside Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 39 Posts: 4,453	Re: Should we have traded Patrick Ramsey? we should have traded p ram in the offseason and signed a good backup like billy volek, who prolly would have started for us. even maybe have signed vinny __________________ "I don't care what nobody say I'm a be me, stay hood stay real, cause I'm out here grindin'" -Joe Gibbs

10-05-2005, 11:22 PM	#9
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	Re: Should we have traded Patrick Ramsey? The short answer to your question is, "no". The longer answer is that any team that aspires to the playoffs in the NFL must have a competent back-up QB. Too many QBs go down and you have to have someone around who can start three or four games for you in a pinch and win one or two of them. Jason Campbell is not yet ready to be relied on in that way. Ramsey was under contract and there really weren't a whole lot of better QBs out there on the free agent market last year who would fit under the Skins' cap. So, keeping Ramsey last off-season was the right move - - even if you agree with me that Joe Gibbs was never all that thrilled to have Ramsey as his starting QB. And now that the season is started and the Skins are 3-0, trading him would be a huge mistake. Unless of course the Colts were willing to give up their guy - what's his name, Peyton Something Or Other??? __________________ The Sports Curmudgeon www.sportscurmudgeon.com But don't get me wrong, I love sports...

10-05-2005, 11:18 PM	#10
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 39 Posts: 7,506	Re: Should we have traded Patrick Ramsey? If people think Ramsey's value is that of a 6th round draft pick, we mine as well just keep him for as long as he wants to stay here, which is probaboly till the end of his contract. If anything we should have given him to Miami last year for a first rounder, but thats easy to second guess now because I'm sure if we did that we all would have been pretty pissed off, myself included. __________________ #21

10-05-2005, 11:56 PM	#11
Luxorreb ^21^ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, Virginia Age: 53 Posts: 1,630	Re: Should we have traded Patrick Ramsey? Let us all remember it is a very long season. Ramsey could see action at anytime. Brunell is much better solving pressure situations, but he could go down at anytime. And I'll bet he's more than ready. __________________ ^21^

10-06-2005, 08:18 AM	#12
#56fanatic The Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Charlotte NC Age: 51 Posts: 1,801	Re: Should we have traded Patrick Ramsey? What I am not hearing from people is that Ramseys contract is up at the end of the year. If you can get an pretty good draft pick for him, why wouldn't you want another pick? What has Ramsey shown in his games played, that makes you think Campbell couldn't do just as good if not better. 1 out of 8 passes Ramsey throws is picked off, he gets sacked 1 out of every 7 attemps and of the ones left, 1 or 2 of those a batted down. I have been a Ramsey fan since we drafted him, but with Gibbs here we dont have the time to wait on him to get the bugs out. Like I said, his contract is up at the end of the year, and if we could get a 3rd rounder, why not?

10-06-2005, 08:44 AM	#14
irish Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,575	Re: Should we have traded Patrick Ramsey? Traded him!? Every yahoo on this site thought PR was the man and told me I didnt understand squat about football when I predicted PR would not be the starter in the 4th game (sorry I missed my prediction by 3 games). Now the talk is PR should have been traded, gimme a break! PR's not going anywhere until the season's done because when MB gets hurt, and he will get hurt, the team needs an experienced backup to keep the ship moving in the right direction.

10-06-2005, 09:20 AM	#15
backrow The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: 36.28 x 76.22 Age: 73 Posts: 1,812	Re: Should we have traded Patrick Ramsey? For those who want to insert J. Campbell, check with Buffalo about Los(er)man! __________________ '37, '42, '83, '88, '92. Championship!

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