Should Brunell be replaced? (merged)

la73hof · 12-12-2005, 09:19 PM

I think its a perfect time to give Jason Campbell his first start... :headbange

FRPLG · 12-11-2005, 08:17 PM

he had one bad half. he has been doing exactly what the coaches want him to do perfectly until that one bad half. you don't sit a guy for one bad half.

saskin · 12-11-2005, 08:20 PM

I was a Brunell supporter a lot I just thought that Gibbs might've sat him down...cause that was a freak game. And most of them were deflections and one he overshot the reciever.

LadyT · 12-11-2005, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by FRPLG

he had one bad half. he has been doing exactly what the coaches want him to do perfectly until that one bad half. you don't sit a guy for one bad half.

Oh yeah? Tell that to Ramsey.

railcon56 · 12-12-2005, 02:11 AM

good point

EternalEnigma21 · 12-11-2005, 08:24 PM

I agree in principal that you wouldn't pull a QB after one performance like that (and having said that you know where I still stand after PR being pulled in the middle of the first game) but... you guys have to agree that brunell does not have the accuracy and nor does he get the defensive reads he was getting in the first half of the season. At first when he was on the field he was there with a purpose, and now it seems that he's a bit lost and off target... and we've seen too much of that in a QB the last several years.

I'm still not for pulling him... but if i were in gibb's position, i may shorten the leash a bit if he doesn't step up next week at home.

Also, I'd try and put antonio brown in the slot position (if not at the #2 position because taylor jacobs just blows no two ways about it) and see if that makes a defense give portis and moss a little bit of room.

BigSKINBauer · 12-11-2005, 08:26 PM

if he did this bad the first 5 games of the year as he has the last 5 i would be calling for his head but we are a playoff contending team and playoff teams don't pull their QB 3 weeks before the playoffs

Beemnseven · 12-11-2005, 08:38 PM

While Brunell's productivity has taken a dive recently, you can't pull the guy with whom the receivers have developed a chemistry after 13 games and insert a right hander that hasn't seen the playing field since week one.

As bad as the offense was against a poor defense today, making a quarterback change now would make things astoundingly worse.

The real problem is that teams have zeroed in on Santana Moss and you cannot depend on Chris Cooley to pick up all the slack. Taylor Jacobs had his third pathetic game in a row as the #2 receiver, and if that doesn't settle once and for all his capability as a viable wideout, I don't know what will. He presents no consistent option for the quarterback whatsoever.

EternalEnigma21 · 12-11-2005, 08:50 PM

I agree... I don't understand why everyone moistens their hanes-her-ways for Taylor Jacobs. I'd love it if Antonio Brown could step up and challenge for a recieving spot and actually catch balls thrown at him. Him and moss could be absolutely lethal.

Longtimefan · 12-11-2005, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by canthetuna

I agree... I don't understand why everyone moistens their hanes-her-ways for Taylor Jacobs. I'd love it if Antonio Brown could step up and challenge for a recieving spot and actually catch balls thrown at him. Him and moss could be absolutely lethal.

I agree, and just because he had that bad game (catching the ball) in the pre-season shouldn't mean he dosen't get another opportunity.Sometimes players have games like that. remember Robert Royal two weeks ago?

BigSKINBauer · 12-11-2005, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by canthetuna

I agree... I don't understand why everyone moistens their hanes-her-ways for Taylor Jacobs. I'd love it if Antonio Brown could step up and challenge for a recieving spot and actually catch balls thrown at him. Him and moss could be absolutely lethal.

I think brown would be a great compliment to moss. The speed would be absolutly unmatchable. I really wanted brown back ,not only for his return threat but for his receiving threat also. maybe i just like him too much but i really think he can be a solid receiver. I thought Brown was gonna be a great player on our team before the season started and i am happy he got another shot

Beemnseven · 12-11-2005, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by canthetuna

I agree... I don't understand why everyone moistens their hanes-her-ways for Taylor Jacobs. I'd love it if Antonio Brown could step up and challenge for a recieving spot and actually catch balls thrown at him. Him and moss could be absolutely lethal.

Moisten their Hanes-her-ways? Now that's funny

Expect the Hanes-her-ways to be nice and dry from here on out.

As for Antonio Brown, yeah, you might as well try anything to get this offense going again.

mheisig · 12-12-2005, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by canthetuna

I agree... I don't understand why everyone moistens their hanes-her-ways for Taylor Jacobs. I'd love it if Antonio Brown could step up and challenge for a recieving spot and actually catch balls thrown at him. Him and moss could be absolutely lethal.

At the very least a defense would have to respect his speed and ability to get downfield. Granted if he can't catch the ball the D won't respect him for long, but maybe it'll work for a game, and as cliche as it is, we gotta take it one game at a time.

offiss · 12-12-2005, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mheisig

At the very least a defense would have to respect his speed and ability to get downfield. Granted if he can't catch the ball the D won't respect him for long, but maybe it'll work for a game, and as cliche as it is, we gotta take it one game at a time.

It doesn't seem to me that defenses really respect a deep passing game from us, it's not that our recievers can't get deep, but oppossing defenses know Brunell can't reach them, one of the commentators yesterday pointed that out on a pattern Farris ran, he said Farris was wide open but to far downfield for Brunell's arm to reach. Even if brunell could through a deep ball he has to put to much air under it to get it there, which allows DB's to recover. He's been very good with the short to intermediate passing game, but I think as defenses recognize this and adjust, it makes it harder and harder for our offense to function, those safties and LB's have to be forced to respect our downfield passing game we can't have them houvering around the line of scrimmage just teeing off on our running game.

I know Portis had a pretty nice day, but as usuall late in the game we couldn't run it, if it wasen't for a hurculeon effort by our offensive line pushing Portis forward for that last firstdown, we would have given the ball back again with less than 2 scores to beat us.

wilsowilso · 12-11-2005, 09:27 PM

Brunell has been pretty average for the past six weeks, but there is no way Gibbs will take him out unless he is hurt. No chance. That being said I honestly would like to see Ramsey get his shot. Brunell will never take us where we want to go and Ramsey is outta here next year if we don't see him play again.

12-12-2005, 09:19 PM	#1
la73hof Special Teams Join Date: May 2004 Location: Naples, Florida Age: 52 Posts: 420	Re: Should Brunell be replaced? I think its a perfect time to give Jason Campbell his first start... :headbange __________________ "I'll go on the record that i am a LA fan"--redsk1 Thanks!

12-11-2005, 08:20 PM	#3
saskin Special Teams Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: San Antonio Age: 37 Posts: 355	Re: Qb I was a Brunell supporter a lot I just thought that Gibbs might've sat him down...cause that was a freak game. And most of them were deflections and one he overshot the reciever.

12-12-2005, 02:11 AM	#5
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12-11-2005, 08:24 PM	#6
EternalEnigma21 Assistant Regional Mod Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Carbondale CO Age: 45 Posts: 2,958	Re: Qb I agree in principal that you wouldn't pull a QB after one performance like that (and having said that you know where I still stand after PR being pulled in the middle of the first game) but... you guys have to agree that brunell does not have the accuracy and nor does he get the defensive reads he was getting in the first half of the season. At first when he was on the field he was there with a purpose, and now it seems that he's a bit lost and off target... and we've seen too much of that in a QB the last several years. I'm still not for pulling him... but if i were in gibb's position, i may shorten the leash a bit if he doesn't step up next week at home. Also, I'd try and put antonio brown in the slot position (if not at the #2 position because taylor jacobs just blows no two ways about it) and see if that makes a defense give portis and moss a little bit of room.

12-11-2005, 08:26 PM	#7
BigSKINBauer Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Washington, DC Age: 37 Posts: 5,688	Re: Qb if he did this bad the first 5 games of the year as he has the last 5 i would be calling for his head but we are a playoff contending team and playoff teams don't pull their QB 3 weeks before the playoffs

12-11-2005, 08:17 PM	#2
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: Qb he had one bad half. he has been doing exactly what the coaches want him to do perfectly until that one bad half. you don't sit a guy for one bad half.

12-11-2005, 08:38 PM	#8
Beemnseven Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 51 Posts: 5,311	Re: Qb While Brunell's productivity has taken a dive recently, you can't pull the guy with whom the receivers have developed a chemistry after 13 games and insert a right hander that hasn't seen the playing field since week one. As bad as the offense was against a poor defense today, making a quarterback change now would make things astoundingly worse. The real problem is that teams have zeroed in on Santana Moss and you cannot depend on Chris Cooley to pick up all the slack. Taylor Jacobs had his third pathetic game in a row as the #2 receiver, and if that doesn't settle once and for all his capability as a viable wideout, I don't know what will. He presents no consistent option for the quarterback whatsoever.

12-11-2005, 08:50 PM	#9
EternalEnigma21 Assistant Regional Mod Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Carbondale CO Age: 45 Posts: 2,958	Re: Qb I agree... I don't understand why everyone moistens their hanes-her-ways for Taylor Jacobs. I'd love it if Antonio Brown could step up and challenge for a recieving spot and actually catch balls thrown at him. Him and moss could be absolutely lethal.

12-11-2005, 09:27 PM	#15
wilsowilso Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles Age: 52 Posts: 2,841	Re: Qb Brunell has been pretty average for the past six weeks, but there is no way Gibbs will take him out unless he is hurt. No chance. That being said I honestly would like to see Ramsey get his shot. Brunell will never take us where we want to go and Ramsey is outta here next year if we don't see him play again.

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