D.C. Examiner: Zorn's job in jeopardy? (not so fast he's coming back)

[NYCskinfan82]

You have to give Zorn at least 4 years

[GusFrerotte]

Unless Zorny changes up his playbook his coming back isn't going to amount to a hill of beans. Zorn is not the problem, it is the antiquated WCO. I just don't see the WCO being a viable offense since everyone and his cousin ran it back in the 80s-90s. Everyone knows how to effectively counter it.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Unless Zorny changes up his playbook his coming back isn't going to amount to a hill of beans. Zorn is not the problem, it is the antiquated WCO. I just don't see the WCO being a viable offense since everyone and his cousin ran it back in the 80s-90s. Everyone knows how to effectively counter it.

So what about the Eagles? Or the Seahawks? Or the Packers? Or the Bucs? There are plenty of teams still running it and having success.

First off Zorn isn't running a pure WCO, in fact I'm not even sure that exists anymore. His system is based on what Holmgren runs in Seattle with plenty of his own philosophies sprinkled in.

It's pretty naive to think the principles of the WCO are outdated.

[Beemnseven]

I think the question is, do we have the personnel best suited for Zorn's offense? When they were 6-2 the running game was so good that defeciences in the passing game were overlooked. Then O-linemen started getting hurt, and defenses just loaded up the box to key in on Portis.

What's troubling is that Campbell can't really seem to hit certain passes with enough regularity -- the slants, and medium to long passes in the middle of the field just over the LB's. Then there's the matter of how good the receivers are to throw to.

There are still big, big question marks with this offense.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

I think the question is, do we have the personnel best suited for Zorn's offense? When they were 6-2 the running game was so good that defeciences in the passing game were overlooked. Then O-linemen started getting hurt, and defenses just loaded up the box to key in on Portis.

What's troubling is that Campbell can't really seem to hit certain passes with enough regularity -- the slants, and medium to long passes in the middle of the field just over the LB's. Then there's the matter of how good the receivers are to throw to.

There are still big, big question marks with this offense.

With just one offseason under his belt I think it's fair to say he doesn't have all of his guys yet.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

With just one offseason under his belt I think it's fair to say he doesn't have all of his guys yet.

Aside from obvious needed improvements along the offensive line, and assuming he had his say in the selection of Thomas, Davis, and Kelly this year, who else do you think Zorn would need?

[redskinsrob]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

So what about the Eagles? Or the Seahawks? Or the Packers? Or the Bucs? There are plenty of teams still running it and having success.

First off Zorn isn't running a pure WCO, in fact I'm not even sure that exists anymore. His system is based on what Holmgren runs in Seattle with plenty of his own philosophies sprinkled in.

It's pretty naive to think the principles of the WCO are outdated.

I have been down on JC for the last half of the season thinking that he just isn't the right QB for this system. the teams you mentioned all run a version of the WCO and the head coaches are all from the Walsh coaching tree. Every one of these teams and there QBs took a couple of years to get the WCO to perform with success. Hasselback was horrible when he took over as the starting QB for Seattle as well as McNabb. Zorn Knows this system in and out, he just has to get JC and the rest of the offense going in the same direction. I think you will see a vast improvement next season with the WCO here.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

So what about the Eagles? Or the Seahawks? Or the Packers? Or the Bucs? There are plenty of teams still running it and having success.

First off Zorn isn't running a pure WCO, in fact I'm not even sure that exists anymore. His system is based on what Holmgren runs in Seattle with plenty of his own philosophies sprinkled in.

It's pretty naive to think the principles of the WCO are outdated.

You bring up an interesting point, something I was thinking about the other day. What if this off-season Zorn does like other assistants have done with their first head coaching opportunity, Gibbs for example, and basically says "I know my reputation is as WC coach, but with this talent maybe another type of offense makes more sense." Could happen I suppose

[MTK]

I think we need to remember the entire offense has slumped along with JC. It's not like the running game is what it was when JC was playing well earlier in the year, and the OL certainly is not functioning like it was then either.