Chase Young or Three First Round Picks?

[mooby]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Yes. Trades for Jerry Rice, Tony Dorsett, Earl Campbell, Dick Butkus, Eric Dickerson, Michael Vick, and Julio Jones.

Jerry Rice wasn't a mega-deal, the 49ers traded their first two picks to move up to 16 to get him.

I'm talking MEGA-deals, i.e. the Redskins give up 3 ones and a 2 for RG3. The Saints give up an entire draft for Ricky Williams.

I'll concede the Dickerson and Dorsett deals as both were worth it, but the Butkus trade wasn't a mega-deal and Vick was absolutely not worth it.

[Warthog]

Originally Posted by mooby

Jerry Rice wasn't a mega-deal, the 49ers traded their first two picks to move up to 16 to get him.



I'm talking MEGA-deals, i.e. the Redskins give up 3 ones and a 2 for RG3. The Saints give up an entire draft for Ricky Williams.



I'll concede the Dickerson and Dorsett deals as both were worth it, but the Butkus trade wasn't a mega-deal and Vick was absolutely not worth it.

A lot more mega-busts than mega-deals. Look at RG3 for example.....


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[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by Warthog

A lot more mega-busts than mega-deals. Look at RG3 for example.....


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Warthog, I tried sending you a couple PMs, but it doesn't look like it worked. Anyway if they didn't check out my parking lot post on Kratom for back trouble.

[KI Skins Fan]

On April 10th we should have a clearer view of whether or not some team will pay a high price to move up for Tua. That's because Tua is scheduled to take a medical exam tomorrow, March 9th, that could result in his final clearance to resume all football activities and, if he is cleared, the next step for him is his own Pro Day which is currently scheduled for Thursday, April 19th.

If Tua aces his Pro Day, I anticipate that multiple teams will attempt to move up to draft Tua. Those teams will need to draft ahead of Miami and it will cost a lot. Who knows who will try to move up, how far they'll try to move up, or if Miami will try to move up, as well.

One thing that no team that covets Tua wants to do is to trade a ton of draft capital only to see Tua taken ahead of them. That's why I think the Redskins #2 pick will be the target of these teams. I also think that the trade, if it happens, will be done prior to the draft so the team that wants Tua will not risk losing him to another team on a crazy draft day deal. Lastly, the #2 pick needs to be their target because if the Bengals surprise and take Tua, then the team that traded up for him can then take Burrow. Trying to read the minds of the teams drafting at #2, #3, and #4 is risky business.

The Skins need to continue to state and act like they are undecided between Young, Tua, or Burrow with their #2 pick in order to be able to receive and evaluate any trade offers they may get for that pick. It's simply smart business.

[skinsfaninok]

If we Trade Trent for a 1st rounder and then trade #2 for 5 and 18, look out!

Wishful thinking I Know

[Number44]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

If we Trade Trent for a 1st rounder and then trade #2 for 5 and 18, look out!

Wishful thinking I Know

Need to get more than just #18 to trade #2 for #5. That would be equivalent value on the value chart, but given how highly Young is rated vs. the average player normally available at #2 and the apparent strong desire to get Tua by Miami, I think that requiring #39 in the deal as well would be the least I would consider. Just keeping Young still might be the better choice, but #2, #18, and #39 makes it an interesting option.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

If we Trade Trent for a 1st rounder and then trade #2 for 5 and 18, look out!

Wishful thinking I Know

I'd have to get 2 first rounders and a 2nd before I would even consider that. Because we'd be losing on on Chase. Tua, and potentially Simmons for that trade

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

I'd have to get 2 first rounders and a 2nd before I would even consider that. Because we'd be losing on on Chase. Tua, and potentially Simmons for that trade

We could get Simmons at 5 I think and then a CB at 18 . It wont happen but still

[Warthog]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

I'd have to get 2 first rounders and a 2nd before I would even consider that. Because we'd be losing on on Chase. Tua, and potentially Simmons for that trade

I just don’t think we’ll get a first for Trent but we can always dream. Probably a second. Still, that second rounder will REALLY help our overall draft with a very good OT or WR.

For the #2 draft spot we’ll need Miami’s #5, #18 and probably #39. Highly, highly unlikely. If the football gods shined upon us with this mega-deal, that would land us Simmons at LB or maybe as a Sean Taylor clone (at FS), then a OT or WR with the # 18. #39 could go for TE. If we made that trade deal we would probably get to face Chase Young with the Giants twice a season for a decade. Their fans would certainly thank us!


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[Giantone]

With Trents age and injury history no way you get two first rounders but if you do trade Trent do you take an OT with the number 2 pick?

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Giantone

With Trents age and injury history no way you get two first rounders but if you do trade Trent do you take an OT with the number 2 pick?

In two words: HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLL No

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Giantone

With Trents age and injury history no way you get two first rounders but if you do trade Trent do you take an OT with the number 2 pick?

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[skinsfaninok]

I'd take Tua over a Tackle at #2, u can get a good LT in Free agency this yr.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

This is how I would rate the likelihood of our current options:

1. Draft Chase Young - 70%
2. Trade down - 24%
3. Draft a QB at 2 - 4%
4. Trade up for Burrow - 1%

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

This is how I would rate the likelihood of our current options:

1. Draft Chase Young - 70%
2. Trade down - 24%
3. Draft a QB at 2 - 4%
4. Trade up for Burrow - 1%

I'd say it's

1. Young - 50%
2. Tua - 25%
3. Trade down - 25%