ESPN Say's Newton To Enter Draft

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

In all fairness to Warren Moon, I'm going to give him a pass here. One of the best pure passers the NFL has ever seen wasn't drafted simply cause of the color of his skin. He had to go to Cananda for 6 years before the NFL gave him a shot. To this day I still shake my head at that, so if it bothers me, imagine what he still feels like. Moon is probably a little sensitive when it comes to black QB's being looked down upon.

(following rant isn't towards you Skinsfan69, just the situation in general)


**** that. This shit pisses me off to no end. OOOOoooo I feel slighted so I'll use my race card to garner sympathy votes from the public. (or the Jew card in Dan Snyder's case)

There is no pass on this. I don't recall Warren Moon saying a god damn thing when they ripped Jimmy Clausen about his character, or Ryan Mallet this year. Hell, where was Warren when the assaulted the characters of Akili Smith, Donovan McNabb, Pat White, Jamarcus Russell and Vince Young before going into the draft....oh wait....probably because IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

Warren, there is a reason this kid's character is being assaulted. I understand he's paying you and it's your job to get him the highest draft slot available, abut how about we leave the Race Card shit to a time and era it was deserved. (such as the one Moon was in)


/rant off

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

In all fairness to Warren Moon, I'm going to give him a pass here. One of the best pure passers the NFL has ever seen wasn't drafted simply cause of the color of his skin. He had to go to Cananda for 6 years before the NFL gave him a shot. To this day I still shake my head at that, so if it bothers me, imagine what he still feels like. Moon is probably a little sensitive when it comes to black QB's being looked down upon.

He may have the right to be sensitive to race issues facing black qb's but it dont give him the right to speak out like he did and basically call anyone who critizes Newton a raciest. 2 wrongs dont make a right and the vast majoirty of people believe that Moon is incorrect in his argument

[SmootSmack]

it's an easy excuse to say "attacks" on Cam are racially based...but that doesn't explain when someone says "does he have the demeanor and work ethic to avoid being the next Ryan Leaf?"

[Jontrem]

I was against us drafting before all of this stuff. Now I wouldnt want him in the second round.

[Hog1]

Moon has.........always been quick to throw the race card.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Hog1

Moon has.........always been quick to throw the race card.

Really? I wasn't aware of that

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Really? I wasn't aware of that

THAT is possible...
I was in Houston through most of his Oiler career, I have heard him on a few occasions make declarations regarding one wrong or another that could only be a racial issue (and may have been) rather than any other causation
MUCH like this issue.....

[skinsfaninok]

Whats funny is "experts" are worried about Ryan Mallett and his possible drug addictions but you don't see anyone coming to his aid. This stuff is getting out of hand honestly, anytime a black athlete is questioned or gets in trouble its always because he's black. Just gets old

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Whats funny is "experts" are worried about Ryan Mallett and his possible drug addictions but you don't see anyone coming to his aid. This stuff is getting out of hand honestly, anytime a black athlete is questioned or gets in trouble its always because he's black. Just gets old

This is a pretty good read on Mallett

Dave Hyde | Sun Sentinel blogs | Draft Winds: Lies, damn lies and Ryan Mallett

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Whats funny is "experts" are worried about Ryan Mallett and his possible drug addictions but you don't see anyone coming to his aid. This stuff is getting out of hand honestly, anytime a black athlete is questioned or gets in trouble its always because he's black. Just gets old

It got pretty ugly on the ESPN comment section for the Vrabel scandal. According to some on the fringe, if Vrabel had been black, white people would have been all over Vrabel.

That is a great point though. Mallet has been getting hammered worse then Newton throughout this draft process. He has dropped from a potential top 10 pick to a likely mid second round pick due mainly to character concerns alone. Newton in spite of all the criticism has gone from mid to late first round pick to top 5 lock. At this point Mallet wishes he was the victim of "racism."

Either way the race card is getting maxed out these days. For God's sake 70% of the NFL is black, so when an NFL player screws up and does something stupid theres a 70% chance that player is going to be black. And just like hockey when a Hockey player screws up theres a 99% chance that player is going to be white.

[skinsfaninok]

^ good post

[30gut]

I wish everyone would stop talking about this race situation.
If you don't agree fine but don't cry outrage when someone (Warren Moon) is offended.
How would you feel if someone told you how to feel?
Fact is Moon has been discriminated against because of his race.
If he senses the same thing to is happening to Newton he has every right to express that.

Also, people keep mentioning Mallett as an example that Newton isn't being treated unfairly but does Norwicki have an equally personal and scathing attack on Mallett?

Lets not confuse the issue here Norwicki's profile was personal and unprofessional and Warren Moon felt it was racial driven.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by 30gut

I wish everyone would stop talking about this race situation.
If you don't agree fine but don't cry outrage when someone (Warren Moon) is offended.
How would you feel if someone told you how to feel?
Fact is Moon has been discriminated against because of his race.
If he senses the same thing to is happening to Newton he has every right to express that.

Also, people keep mentioning Mallett as an example that Newton isn't being treated unfairly but does Norwicki have an equally personal and scathing attack on Mallett?

Lets not confuse the issue here Norwicki's profile was personal and unprofessional and Warren Moon felt it was racial driven.

Not when you compare it to past profiles PFW has done. Some very similar things were said about Jimmy Clausen just last year.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Not when you compare it to past profiles PFW has done. Some very similar things were said about Jimmy Clausen just last year.

Does previous history make it okay to be unprofessional and personal?

[Son Of Man]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Does previous history make it okay to be unprofessional and personal?

Ding, ding ding...this! The writer does seem to be grossly unprofessional with borderline animosoty in the tone of his review. Personally, I'll never read his stuff.

BTW- The fake smile thing is an unecessary cheap shot, at best.