Who should we go for in Free Agency?

Alvin Walton · 03-09-2015, 07:19 PM

Jake Long released by the Rams.....

Irrefutable · 03-09-2015, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

Jake Long released by the Rams.....

if he is healthy, and the price is right, sign Long for 3 years

KI Skins Fan · 03-09-2015, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

I say no. Bulaga is best in the run game and struggles more in pass pro. We already have tackles who fit that description.

Per Pro Football Focus:

"This past season was easily the most important for Bulaga’s career. Coming off of consecutive season-ending injuries, he needed to prove that he could stay on the field and perform up to his peak 2011 level. To tell the story of his season you need to break it into two halves. Over the first half Bulaga graded at -0.7 overall, but after the bye in Week 9 he found his groove and turned into the Pro Bowl level talent he was prior to his injuries.

From Weeks 10-17 his +12.6 grade ranked ninth out of all tackles and topped all right tackles. His 97.1 Pass Blocking Efficiency rating over that time ranked sixth overall. This second-half run was exactly the finish he needed to propel him towards free agency.

Bryan Bulaga struggled as a rookie and then turned into a Pro-Bowl level tackle in 2011. He then suffered two lost seasons via injury before finally hitting his groove again the second half of last season.

If Bulaga can continue to stay healthy he has the ability to be a Top 10-15 tackle, and perhaps even more. He is also one of the few who plays well both in the run game and in pass protection."

JoeRedskin · 03-09-2015, 07:39 PM

Long is 30, has had two ACL tears, is being released one year into a four year contract, and has not played a full season since 2010.

Moving on.

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Lotus · 03-09-2015, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Per Pro Football Focus:

"This past season was easily the most important for Bulaga’s career. Coming off of consecutive season-ending injuries, he needed to prove that he could stay on the field and perform up to his peak 2011 level. To tell the story of his season you need to break it into two halves. Over the first half Bulaga graded at -0.7 overall, but after the bye in Week 9 he found his groove and turned into the Pro Bowl level talent he was prior to his injuries.

From Weeks 10-17 his +12.6 grade ranked ninth out of all tackles and topped all right tackles. His 97.1 Pass Blocking Efficiency rating over that time ranked sixth overall. This second-half run was exactly the finish he needed to propel him towards free agency.

Bryan Bulaga struggled as a rookie and then turned into a Pro-Bowl level tackle in 2011. He then suffered two lost seasons via injury before finally hitting his groove again the second half of last season.

If Bulaga can continue to stay healthy he has the ability to be a Top 10-15 tackle, and perhaps even more. He is also one of the few who plays well both in the run game and in pass protection."

Good to know. I had read analysis and watched him play differently.

los panda · 03-09-2015, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

Jake Long released by the Rams.....

i haven't seen him play since like 2010, but if he is a shade of his former self... please join us

los panda · 03-09-2015, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Long is 30, has had two ACL tears, is being released one year into a four year contract, and has not played a full season since 2010.

Moving on.

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^ nm

Irrefutable · 03-09-2015, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Long is 30, has had two ACL tears, is being released one year into a four year contract, and has not played a full season since 2010.

Moving on.

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really ? not many OL play a "full season "- 15 games in 2013 is good enough

Jake Long, T for the St. Louis Rams at NFL.com

Skinzman · 03-09-2015, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Just to be clear, you would sign Baluga for 8-9M/year even though his current team wouldn't match $7M/yr?

As much as I would love to solve the RT position, 8-9m for a RT would make him the highest paid true RT in the league if im not mistaken. If he can switch to LT and still perform at a high level, the security it would provide (plus TW is a FA in a year) might be worth it. But if he cant slide over to LT and play effectively, then no I wouldnt.

CRedskinsRule · 03-09-2015, 08:32 PM

The biggest problem is simple - it's hard to find GOOD tackles, left or right. I wanted Moses, and might have hope for him, but a Lis Franc, for a RT that depends on planting on his foot. Gonna be hard to get him going, and he didn't show a lot last year. So that means we need to get another guy. Maybe we get him in the second. I dunno, but what I think is true is that we need, without question, a starting RT, a starting Safety, and a starting NT, I think you hope to get 2 of the 3 in rounds 1 and 2, but you are not getting all 3 in the draft this year.

If we don't get BB I guess I am ok, but I think you need to bite the bullet on one of those positions, and pay the bucks for a "sure thing" (go ahead and kill me)

Lotus · 03-09-2015, 08:52 PM

I'm curious to see what we pay Paea.

Otherwise, so far we have stayed out of the early-process high-priced FA bidding, which is a good thing. The first FA wave often seems to bring the least value.

Skinzman · 03-09-2015, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

The biggest problem is simple - it's hard to find GOOD tackles, left or right. I wanted Moses, and might have hope for him, but a Lis Franc, for a RT that depends on planting on his foot. Gonna be hard to get him going, and he didn't show a lot last year. So that means we need to get another guy. Maybe we get him in the second. I dunno, but what I think is true is that we need, without question, a starting RT, a starting Safety, and a starting NT, I think you hope to get 2 of the 3 in rounds 1 and 2, but you are not getting all 3 in the draft this year.

If we don't get BB I guess I am ok, but I think you need to bite the bullet on one of those positions, and pay the bucks for a "sure thing" (go ahead and kill me)

There seems to be a lot of tackles in this draft. Especially in rounds 2-4 that should be pretty good. The only question is if they can start immediately. Personally I think we will go pass rusher in round 1, so probably look for OL upgrades after that.

Also, if we are going to switch to 1 gap responsibility on defense, then getting a big hulking NT is less important. If we do switch to 1 gap, I think Paea and/or Baker can do pretty good at that. Thats less about attracting double teams and more about getting your gap filled and then pushing into the backfield to disrupt things.

ethat001 · 03-09-2015, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

The biggest problem is simple - it's hard to find GOOD tackles, left or right. I wanted Moses, and might have hope for him, but a Lis Franc, for a RT that depends on planting on his foot. Gonna be hard to get him going, and he didn't show a lot last year. So that means we need to get another guy. Maybe we get him in the second. I dunno, but what I think is true is that we need, without question, a starting RT, a starting Safety, and a starting NT, I think you hope to get 2 of the 3 in rounds 1 and 2, but you are not getting all 3 in the draft this year.

If we don't get BB I guess I am ok, but I think you need to bite the bullet on one of those positions, and pay the bucks for a "sure thing" (go ahead and kill me)

Yes, Moses will perhaps only be ready by end of 2015 or early 2016. Problem with drafting another OT -- it gives up on Moses after one year, and then you have three OT for only two spots - seems wasteful. Really would be better to get a vet x 1-2 years, just too bad we missed on the legit veteran RTs so far. Compton is possible but will disappoint.

Irrefutable · 03-09-2015, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ethat001

Yes, Moses will perhaps only be ready by end of 2015 or early 2016. Problem with drafting another OT -- it gives up on Moses after one year, and then you have three OT for only two spots - seems wasteful. Really would be better to get a vet x 1-2 years, just too bad we missed on the legit veteran RTs so far. Compton is possible but will disappoint.

put Moses on IR, and see if he develops

artmonkforhallofamein07 · 03-09-2015, 09:40 PM

I'd rather have three who can play than just one. Draft a tackle of needed. Competition will only make Mosses better if he can be. Trading a tackle that has shown something that is easy.

We need depth as well. Trent hasn't been the healthiest and he could get a game breather if he needs one it would be nice to know he can.

03-09-2015, 07:19 PM	#376
Alvin Walton Pro Bowl Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Holland, Michigan Posts: 5,741	Re: Who should we go for in Free Agency? Jake Long released by the Rams..... __________________ REDSKINS FAN SINCE 1968

03-09-2015, 07:39 PM	#379
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 62 Posts: 10,401	Re: Who should we go for in Free Agency? Long is 30, has had two ACL tears, is being released one year into a four year contract, and has not played a full season since 2010. Moving on. Sent from my VS985 4G using Tapatalk __________________ Strap it up, hold onto the ball, and let’s go.

03-09-2015, 08:32 PM	#385
CRedskinsRule Living Legend Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 58 Posts: 21,702	Re: Who should we go for in Free Agency? The biggest problem is simple - it's hard to find GOOD tackles, left or right. I wanted Moses, and might have hope for him, but a Lis Franc, for a RT that depends on planting on his foot. Gonna be hard to get him going, and he didn't show a lot last year. So that means we need to get another guy. Maybe we get him in the second. I dunno, but what I think is true is that we need, without question, a starting RT, a starting Safety, and a starting NT, I think you hope to get 2 of the 3 in rounds 1 and 2, but you are not getting all 3 in the draft this year. If we don't get BB I guess I am ok, but I think you need to bite the bullet on one of those positions, and pay the bucks for a "sure thing" (go ahead and kill me)

03-09-2015, 08:52 PM	#386
Lotus Fire Bruce NOW Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 11,434	Re: Who should we go for in Free Agency? I'm curious to see what we pay Paea. Otherwise, so far we have stayed out of the early-process high-priced FA bidding, which is a good thing. The first FA wave often seems to bring the least value. __________________ Bruce Allen when in charge alone: 4-12 (.250) Bruce Allen's overall Redskins record : 28-52 (.350) Vinny Cerrato's record when in charge alone: 52-65 (.444) Vinny's overall Redskins record: 62-82 (.430) We won more with Vinny

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artmonkforhallofamein07 Pro Bowl Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Charleston , SC Posts: 5,001	Re: Who should we go for in Free Agency? I'd rather have three who can play than just one. Draft a tackle of needed. Competition will only make Mosses better if he can be. Trading a tackle that has shown something that is easy. We need depth as well. Trent hasn't been the healthiest and he could get a game breather if he needs one it would be nice to know he can. __________________ Just win.

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