Fresh Start Political Thread

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Talk about the boogie man. You have convinced yourself (or others have convinced you) that there is a whole boogie man network. What is next Chico? The baby eating? Come back from wherever Q has taken you man. It isn’t a healthy place.

You're being nice . he is a lost trump soul.

[punch it in]

This all coming from a guy who’s messiah treated the AG like he was his own personal lawyer, but it’s the dems who are actually financing all the DA’s to do their evil bidding and send monsters to take their neighborhoods and create chaos in their suburban utopias. How the hell do you have a conversation with that? Lol. You are one keyboard stroke away from claiming Hillary eats babies man. Just do it Chico. Stop testing the waters and be a good Q soldier and take The nonsense to the next level. Putin wants it. He loooooves the discord. Trump wants it too. Do it Chico. Tell us about the blood sucking baby eating dems!

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by punch it in

This all coming from a guy who’s messiah treated the AG like he was his own personal lawyer, but it’s the dems who are actually financing all the DA’s to do their evil bidding and send monsters to take their neighborhoods and create chaos in their suburban utopias. How the hell do you have a conversation with that? Lol. You are one keyboard stroke away from claiming Hillary eats babies man. Just do it Chico. Stop testing the waters and be a good Q soldier and take The nonsense to the next level. Putin wants it. He loooooves the discord. Trump wants it too. Do it Chico. Tell us about the blood sucking baby eating dems!

chico sitting at his keyboard.

[punch it in]

Chico is just doing what every loyal Trumper is doing. Trying to make the DA’s look corrupt before they lay the hammer down on his messiah. So damn predictable. Live your own life man, don’t dedicate your time and brain cells to some man you dont even know. It is sad.

[nonniey]

CRT revisited.

From the WSJ (Which by the way is one of the very few media outlets that have maintained a good reputation - being attacked regularly by both the Trump and woke mobs helps with that).

"...............The ideology has sparked an immense backlash. As Americans have sought to understand critical race theory, they have discovered that it has divided Americans into racial categories of “oppressor” and “oppressed” and promotes radical concepts such as “spirit murder” (what public schools supposedly do to black children) and “abolishing whiteness” (a purported precondition for social justice). In the classroom, critical race theory-inspired lessons have often devolved into race-based struggle sessions, with public schools forcing children to rank themselves according to a racial hierarchy, subjecting white teachers to “antiracist therapy,” and encouraging parents to become “white traitors.”

Alarmed state legislators have pushed back. In recent months, lawmakers in 24 states have introduced, and six have enacted, legislation banning public schools from promoting critical race theory’s core concepts, including race essentialism, collective guilt and racial superiority. Parent groups around the country have mobilized to oppose critical race theory in the classroom, arguing that it cultivates shame in white students and fatalism in minority students. According to a recent YouGov survey, of the 64% of Americans who have heard about critical race theory, 58% view it unfavorably, including 72% of political independents.

That’s a major liability for the political left. Sensing that they are losing control of the narrative on race, left-leaning media outlets have launched a furious counterattack. Liberal pundits at the New York Times , Washington Post, MSNBC and elsewhere have begun spinning a new mythology that presents critical race theory as a benign academic concept, casts its detractors as right-wing extremists driven by racial resentment, and portrays legislation against critical race theory as an attempt to ban teaching about the history of slavery and racism. All three charges are false........."

https://www.wsj.com/articles/battle-...nion_lead_pos5

[MTK]

Trying to forget or actively ignoring the ugly history in this country doesn't make it go away. It's a complicated issue, but one that's clearly being politicized to fire up the masses.

The Maddening Critical Race Theory Debate

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by MTK

Trying to forget or actively ignoring the ugly history in this country doesn't make it go away. It's a complicated issue, but one that's clearly being politicized to fire up the masses.

The Maddening Critical Race Theory Debate

Did you miss this part? - bolded below.

....New York Times , Washington Post, MSNBC and elsewhere have begun spinning a new mythology that presents critical race theory as a benign academic concept, casts its detractors as right-wing extremists driven by racial resentment, and portrays legislation against critical race theory as an attempt to ban teaching about the history of slavery and racism. All three charges are false........."

No one is proposing history being ignored or banned (Heck other than all history being ignored which seems to be the default in K-12 the last 30 years which laid the ground work that enabled CRT proponents to push their execrable revision).

So New York Times versus Wall Street Journal - One paper has maintained a good reputation one hasn't - who you going to believe at this point?

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by nonniey

Did you miss this part? - bolded below.

....New York Times , Washington Post, MSNBC and elsewhere have begun spinning a new mythology that presents critical race theory as a benign academic concept, casts its detractors as right-wing extremists driven by racial resentment, and portrays legislation against critical race theory as an attempt to ban teaching about the history of slavery and racism. All three charges are false........."

No one is proposing history being ignored or banned (Heck other than all history being ignored which seems to be the default in K-12 the last 30 years which laid the ground work that enabled CRT proponents to push their execrable revision).

So New York Times versus Wall Street Journal - One has paper has maintained a good reputation one hasn't - who you going to believe at this point?

A big problem imo is that people take opinion pieces and editorial people like Tucker Carlson or Don Lemon as news and facts instead of one persons opinion.

I cant view this NY Times or the WSJ opinion piece as its behind a pay wall but its clearly marked OPINION which should be read with a grain of salt

Christopher Rufo, the writer of the WSJ opinion piece is a right wing activist who worked for Heritage Foundation, does the Carlson/Ingraham talking circuit etc ... seems to be trying to anchor himself into the money making right wing echo chamber talking circuit and has targeted critical race theory as his drum to beat.

Christopher Rufo opinion piece does not equal WSJ credibility or integrity

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

A big problem imo is that people take opinion pieces and editorial people like Tucker Carlson or Don Lemon as news and facts instead of one persons opinion.

I cant view this NY Times or the WSJ opinion piece as its behind a pay wall but its clearly marked OPINION which should be read with a grain of salt

Christopher Rufo, the writer of the WSJ opinion piece is a right wing activist who worked for Heritage Foundation, does the Carlson/Ingraham talking circuit etc ... seems to be trying to anchor himself into the money making right wing echo chamber talking circuit and has targeted critical race theory as his drum to beat.

Christopher Rufo opinion piece does not equal WSJ credibility or integrity

Even opinion pages are subject to a reputational standing. Do the papers editorial writers or guests have a history of playing fast and loose with facts, or omissions of facts, do they they do it a lot or a little? etc. The New York Times reputation, not only in their news reporting but their editorial opinion pieces, has taken quite a hit over the last 5-10 years, while the WSJ has maintained a good reputation. Rufo is a regular WSJ contributor subject to their requirements. Does it matter that he is a conservative when he is required to adhere to WSJ standards?

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by nonniey

Even opinion pages are subject to a reputational standing. Do the papers editorial writers or guests have a history of playing fast and loose with facts, or omissions of facts, do they they do it a lot or a little? etc. The New York Times reputation, not only in their news reporting but their editorial opinion pieces, has taken quite a hit over the last 5-10 years, while the WSJ has maintained a good reputation. Rufo is a regular WSJ contributor subject to their requirements. Does it matter that he is a conservative when he is required to adhere to WSJ standards?

Isnt the WSJ owned by Robert Murdoch?

regular news is slanted enough ... im good with categorizing "opinion pieces" as opinion pieces and not treating them like a neutral news source.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by MTK

Trying to forget or actively ignoring the ugly history in this country doesn't make it go away. It's a complicated issue, but one that's clearly being politicized to fire up the masses.

The Maddening Critical Race Theory Debate

Talking about the history of the country isn’t the issue..in fact in the new Florida law-slavery, civil rights,etc is required to be taugh (thanks President DeSantis) . it’s the Marxist frame indoctrination in a false premise ala the 1619 lie. I don’t have a problem if you want to take a class in that garbage in college…but it shouldn’t be forced upon kids, it’s a divider.

[SunnySide]

right wing is pumping the "critical race theory" up as much as they did "defund the police" ... its all just scare tactics to keep their white country base convinced they and their god loving country is being replaced.

And it is ... white bible hugging conservatives are already the minority and but for gerrymandering and the way senators are allocated, they already be the powerless minority.

Give it 20-30 years and the bible hugging, abortion obsessed demographic will go from minority to the powerless voiceless minority.

Its why they clinge to Trump so hard .. their last great white hope.

[MTK]

I didn't realize the WSJ article was by Rufo. That cracks me up. He's the one that essentially lit the fire under this CRT BS.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by MTK

I didn't realize the WSJ article was by Rufo. That cracks me up. He's the one that essentially lit the fire under this CRT BS.

Yup a scholar who has studied it, exposing the ugliness and dishonest rhetoric like school administrators saying “white babies are born racist”

He’s accepted all invitations to talk about the issue….and does so like a normal human being while getting yelled out by clowns such as joy Reid.

He’s not a political operative.

If you want to understand the issue -many do not - i suggest reading what he has to say and what he has actually found. You then can understand why school officials will lie about what they are trying to do.

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Yup a scholar who has studied it, exposing the ugliness and dishonest rhetoric like school administrators saying “white babies are born racist”

He’s accepted all invitations to talk about the issue….and does so like a normal human being while getting yelled out by clowns such as joy Reid.

He’s not a political operative.

If you want to understand the issue -many do not - i suggest reading what he has to say and what he has actually found. You then can understand why school officials will lie about what they are trying to do.

All ive heard and read are republican governors doing pres conferences about how they are going to ban and forbid CRT to be taught in public schools ... and this gets repeated in the right wing echo chamber ...

funny thing is ... does any public school have a CRT course? It seems like its a theology, a thought to be discussed in some college Sociology class.

Listening to republicans and right wing echo chamber .. Id swear my 9 year is being told "white people bad" at her public school. Now Im sure we can find some granola too woke private charter school doing some dumb over the top racial sensitivity exercise ...

but I highly doubt Florida and Texas public schools are forcing 13 year olds to take "Critical Race Theory" before math and after social studies.

its just weird.